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Zika Infection May Affect Adult Brain Cells

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Re: Zika Infection May Affect Adult Brain Cells

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Unintended consequences still manage to arise most of the time when people think they can play god and mess with nature in that way. Until relatively recently, people didn't even know that hummingbirds relied heavily on eating small insects like mosquitos rather than just drinking nectar. Undoubtedly there are many things like that which we simply aren't aware of.

I've never understood this argument. We have been "playing god" since we settled down 10,000 years ago and started practicing agriculture. The ways in which we selectively cultivate/breed plants/animals have do doubt caused major changes in ecosystems. Yet, if we had not done those things, we probably would not be here today. Furthermore, where do you draw the line? We are very close to eradicating the polio virus. D…

Viruses are not exactly living organisms, so the comparisons you make are not apt.

There's a huge difference between any virus and an organism which plays a role in a super complex ecosystem (and our food chain) we don't entirely understand.

Likewise, there is a difference between playing god in a self-contained environment like a farm, but which is not the case with the wider environment.

Yes, humans have driven many species to extinction but I think in retrospect this would have been inadvisable.

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True, and I'll bet they don't feel especially guilty about it.

I bet coral is starting to wonder what it did wrong.

Humans are starting to think about what we are doing wrong. The expansion of the regions afflicted by mosquitoes is largely our fault.

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Everything in engineering is a compromise, and ecological engineering is no different. We still do it anyway. We get to do it because we're humans, and the other species aren't. It is not reasonable to demand assurances of complete safety, or freedom from all possible adverse consequences, before taking action in defense of our own species.

> We get to do it because we're humans, and the other species aren't. Beavers get to do a little ecological engineering now and again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4t0BKlICsk Motherboard report about how beavers imported to Chile have disrupted riparian forests.

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So, I know disrupting ecologies can have profound consequences that aren't obvious ahead of time, but let's do a thought experiment. Let's assume we have a 100% effective way to kill all mosquitoes within 18-24 months. What are the known disruptions and consequences of this? Do we have ways to combat problems due to that? What are the probable/theoretical distuptions and consequences? Do we have have to combat these?…

You don't even need to kill all mosquitos, just the ones that bite humans and carry disease. South America actually did manage to nearly eradicate Aedes aegypti, though the success was short lived. Aedes aegypti is not even native to South America- it's African. So eliminating it from the New World can't do that much damage given that the ecosystem got along fine before it arrived.

> So eliminating it from the New World can't do that much damage given that the ecosystem got along fine before it arrived.

I wonder what kind of South American bug pollinates Cherimoya blooms? The Cherimoya fruit is exceptional, but producing it in California requires hand pollination since some bug that lives in the Andes isn't in California.

Hopefully whatever man dumps into the environment won't create some new nasty... flesh-eating locusts perhaps?

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