Some highlights: Microsoft installed an app in users’ system trays advertising the free upgrade to Windows 10. Not satisfied, the company eventually made Windows 10 a recommended update so users receiving critical security updates were now also downloading an entirely new operating system onto their machines without their knowledge. This is essentially equivalent to saying: You've been running whatever version of Win…
As a Microsoft employee, this W10 force upgrade things is the single thing that pisses me off the most by far... It goes against everything that we are trying to promote/change. Sometimes I'm really wondering if we work for the same company (I'm not in the Windows division). I feel like all the effort we put in investing in open source, being more open, and just generally a more empathic company is totally destroyed…
With Windows 10, Microsoft Disregards User Choice and Privacy
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#252Honest question here: Why tech community is so hard with Windows mandatory updates, and kind of flexible with other companies? Maybe its just me, but the ratio of posts and articles blaming Microsoft for this practice seems to be disproportional. I mean, my Mac asked me 875 times about accepting something about iTunes. No matter how many times i click on decline, it keeps appearing there all the time. Same thing with…
IMO it does not matter what other people are doing. I'm paying for this software so I want control (over my own hardware). Mobile is a lost cause but I literally can't afford to fight my desktop OS. It must work and be reliable. Maybe I would accept forced security updates if they allowed live updates. Having to restart your computer is awful. But that's not even the worse problem. It reset settings, install things y…
Microsoft, with it's endless supply of money, is somehow completely incapable of live OS updates?
Hell, Linux has live updates; I don't even have to restart to update my kernel! I would expect Microsoft to somehow take this existing technology, cater it to their system and call it a brand new feature like they did with the resizable command prompt. "Look at this revolutionary thing we're doing in Windows 10!"
Obviously I'm generalizing or assuming that they would be able to do it; I know nothing of how Windows works. It could be impossible without completely rewriting the entire thing. It's just my ultimate pet peeve about Windows.
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#253Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Too bad. If you sign a contract with your builder allowing him to do this Did we? There's a quite a bunch of lawsuits going on right now regarding that topic.
There's some lawsuits over MS forcing/tricking people into "upgrading" to Windows 10. This is something entirely different; this is MS not providing software updates in the way that some people would prefer. Customers don't have a right to tell their vendors exactly how to provide ongoing services. If you don't like it, find a better vendor. Also, the only successful lawsuit I've heard of against MS recently was the…
No. Microsoft's EULA is void in large parts of Europe. Consumer protection laws are very strong over here.
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#254Earlier quoted context omitted.
That seems to imply that you pick up your cat and have him press the button so you can say "it wasnt me!"... whereas in your case, you did not coerce the cat to press the button for you, so was it truly your instrument, or random occurence.
I feel like you would be responsible for any key presses on your laptop, regardless if made by the cat or not. Maybe someone can give an expert opinion.
But if Microsoft automatically downloaded BankHacker 3.11 to your machine and set it to pop up a dialogue box so that hacking into a bank was so simple your cat could do it — and if then your cat "used your laptop to hack into a bank", then common sense says that Microsoft would be responsible.
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#255Earlier quoted context omitted.
And yet the game Overwatch doesn't have an OSX port so I have windows 10 setup as a dual-boot option. It seems that Microsoft has correctly deduced that users don't really give a fuck. They'll throw a hissy fit, they'll make all sorts of blog posts, but at the end of the day the majority are still staring at a windows 10 installation screen and dealing with it.
Once you stop playing games (it happens eventually for many of us), your need to have Windows around will drop considerably. Are there any killer apps other than games to have Windows around @home?
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#256I have one remaining Windows 7 license that I would like to set up on a new machine. Is there no way to keep it untainted forever by Windows 10?
They aren't doing the free upgrade to 10 offer anymore so you're probably fine. I've been running a 7 instance in a VM for a long time and never had a problem with it upgrading to 10.
Do not assume that the "Free" expiration stops them from loading 10 in all but name & fugly menu on your back-end through 40+ supposed updates & patches. The telemetry is what they are after, the telemetry is what they will go to almost any length to collect and telemetry is all you are good for... at the moment.
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#257Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you have a wired connection, there is no toggle for that setting. There is probably a registry value you can change to do so though.
> There is probably a registry value you can change to do so though. Thanks, but with "probably" I sense that I'm about to get into what I call "mud wrestling" or hours or days of just throwing wild guesses against a wall to see if any appear to stick. I've only got 365 days a year, and I've given away far too many of them to such mud wrestling. GOD knows I do NOT want to do more of that. For physical things, say, an…
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#258We replace computers two to three times per year; I get to pick from generally four-year old computers. I assume that a second computer is not an option for most at work.
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#259Not shocking. I'm writing this out of my Ubuntu partition and I'm running Windows 10, forced down my throat to begin with, and it just does what it wants when it wants to. I've had times when I've gone for a break and my laptop has rebooted and installing some updates I wasn't even aware of. And I'm running Windows out of sheer necessity for the time being because I need Illustrator, Photoshop, etc.. But Microsoft ha…
I was thinking of dual booting and relegating Windows to gaming, have you had any trouble with your setup? Especially with Windows updates messing up the boot settings or wiping partitions that they shouldn't? Seems particularly risky now that MS is pushing out regular "major updates" like the anniversary update, which get handled like a system reinstall.
I had some issues with UEFI during install as well, but it worked out somehow.
Also, it seems that you can still feed the Windows 10 installer a Windows 7 key. I wanted Windows 7 initially, but the computer wouldn't have it.
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Everything you've listed is addressable by enterprise users in an AD environment. I.E., Microsoft's real customers. Using a copy of Windows 10 with no Cortana, Auto-updates, Groove, or Windows Defender right now.
Yes. If you want that control, all you have to do is buy a subscription [0]. $7 per month isn't that much to be able to control your own computer is it? That's only $84 per year or $252 every 3 years -- it's practically a discount for buying an upgrade every 3 years! [0] http://www.computerworld.com/article/2867542/microsoft-touts...
[1] http://www.howtogeek.com/250503/how-to-upgrade-to-windows-10...
[2] http://www.howtogeek.com/244678/you-dont-need-a-product-key-...