There is alot at stake in blaming Russia for the breaches. This was broadcasted, without evidence? and readily accepted by the public. For this reason it's essential that some security experts outside the standard government contractor "experts" validate or at least weigh the evidence implicating the Russian state as the attackers. - Security contractors have financial interests in going along with the popular politi…
1) Now we know Manafort potentially received a cash payment of more than $12 million. Which, I mean, seeing how good he is at running a campaign is clearly money based on competence! 2) Donald Trump's campaign's ONLY intervention in the entire GOP platform was to remove anti-Putin language from the platform re: Ukraine. 3) Not only that, but just days before the RNC, Carter Paige, one of Trump's foreign policy advise…
Soros, the Open Society Foundations, and the Continued Political Hacks
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Do you have a link to evidence in support of #4? #5 was as expected, taken out of context. All Trump said was that if the Russian did hack Hillary's email, that they release the 'lost/deleted' ones, something FBI wants very much as well. #7 that isn't very surprising considering Obama's policies are so far to the left of most Republicans and frankly so seldom make any sense. #8 again, not surprisingly that this was t…
Can you provide a link with evidence it wasn't? Because every article I've seen cites Russia. Applying Occam's razor and asking "Who benefits?" along with everything about Trump's campaign manager, along with proposed policies re: anti-nato and pro-Russian regional invasions, it all leads to Trump being an unwitting or witting agent of Russia. Trump wants some of that oligarch money. Anyone who doesn't see that is be…
Now the question, does it matter ? If the emails are legit it is the only thing that counts.
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1) Now we know Manafort potentially received a cash payment of more than $12 million. Which, I mean, seeing how good he is at running a campaign is clearly money based on competence! 2) Donald Trump's campaign's ONLY intervention in the entire GOP platform was to remove anti-Putin language from the platform re: Ukraine. 3) Not only that, but just days before the RNC, Carter Paige, one of Trump's foreign policy advise…
It's the new Red Scare.
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#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
1) Now we know Manafort potentially received a cash payment of more than $12 million. Which, I mean, seeing how good he is at running a campaign is clearly money based on competence! 2) Donald Trump's campaign's ONLY intervention in the entire GOP platform was to remove anti-Putin language from the platform re: Ukraine. 3) Not only that, but just days before the RNC, Carter Paige, one of Trump's foreign policy advise…
Okay, some of this begs a response. >> 8) anti-NATO stance Nope. This is actually really really wrong. What is being covered as his anti-NATO stance is a position the US has nailed on quietly for years. As someone who grew up in a Canadian military family, I heard the same criticism for years around the dinner table. A lot of nations, Canada included, do not contribute our fair share to our collective security. For d…
Nah, nah. There's two things NATO is about: (a) keeping money flowing in these economic empires and involved countries; (b) protecting the security of them. Money first, citizen safety second. Always in that order. Otherwise, U.S., U.K., France, etc wouldn't have screwed with so many Middle Eastern, Latino, etc countries for their resources in bloody wars. So, that's the game.
Now, what of security? Wait, I know what you mean: U.S.-directed spending on military activities that profit U.S. defense contractors. The revolving door where defense contractors bribe Congress reps, hire Pentagon people for six digits, and get billions in contracts from same people. They build tons of stuff with no proven value on top of what has value. They have cost overruns due to mismanagement. They get involved in various forms of fraud and shoddy work. They pocket billions in process with tens of millions to their executives & Congress people's stock going up. America, with many starving and poorly educated, spends as much money as possible on these defense contractors' bottom lines... more than many others put together... while the other countries spend more on infrastructure, medical, school, etc.
In such a situation, it's 100% reasonable not to match the spending of the U.S.. Matter of fact, countries should brag on not running their defense so foolishly. Any money they spend will probably just make some American executives or legislators wealthier. The problem here is American corruption and defense spending. That industry needs to get their shit together. The corruption won't go away. So, I've just asked they create jobs and line pockets building stuff that's actually useful in modern warfare. If they want spare soldiers, have them fix our crumbling highways and stuff when they aren't killing foreigners for questionable reasons. Should just get something out of our tax dollars like, say, Canadians are.
"One commitment that Canada has met, and something we Canadians should be proud of, is our commitment via NATO to the taskforce in afghanistan. "
Wow. Thought you were American up to that comment as most countries are aware that was BS. Bush Sr and CIA funded terrorists in Afghanistan, training them to fight a superpower. U.S. govt also funded Sadaam in Iraq to tune of $600+ million in fight against Iran. We fought them since, as CIA admitted in 2013, we overthrew their government and installed dictator to help Britain steal their oil. Funded Sadaams war against them to punish their resistance. Slammed him when he resisted the meddling. Eventually, the Saudi terrorist they trained & supported brought a bunch of Saudi friends brainwashed by Saudi extremist religion into the U.S. to murder 3,000+ of us. U.S. response should've been to stop meddling, start some apologies w/ reconstruction money, and smash the hell out of Saudi Arabia until they stop promoting extremism. Instead, they convinced a bunch of people to smash Afghanistan and Iraq while walking hand-in-hand with Saudi king and training their military to be more effective.
Yeah, you shouldn't be proud of your country sacrificing its people to support American imperialism and mass-murder in the Middle East. Those countries you knocked just used their brains. They decided they shouldn't die to make American politicians happy or U.S. defense contractors richer ($300+ billion richer). Now, those countries are destabilized plus ISIS formed in the wake threatening to kill more of us. Great. (thumbs up)
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> "Now we know Manafort potentially received a cash payment" In other words you don't know. Those are weasel words
it is simply 'innocent before proven guilty'. a great american ideal. also, there are proof dugged up by the great american press. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/15/us/politics/paul-manafort-... "Handwritten ledgers show $12.7 million in undisclosed cash payments designated for Mr. Manafort from Mr. Yanukovych’s pro-Russian political party from 2007 to 2012"
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Okay, some of this begs a response. >> 8) anti-NATO stance Nope. This is actually really really wrong. What is being covered as his anti-NATO stance is a position the US has nailed on quietly for years. As someone who grew up in a Canadian military family, I heard the same criticism for years around the dinner table. A lot of nations, Canada included, do not contribute our fair share to our collective security. For d…
"One of Trump's stance on NATO is to put pressure on nations like canada who enjoy the collective security afforded by NATO and benefit from it greatly, but consistently, budget after budget, has never met our commitments to ensure said security. " Nah, nah. There's two things NATO is about: (a) keeping money flowing in these economic empires and involved countries; (b) protecting the security of them. Money first, c…
Seriously, I know the subject of politics is very opinion base, but there are departments in universities across many lands that attempt to study these systems. Like, look how pathetically anti-war, super-simplified, black/white narrative fitting your perspective is: "war exist to fund defense contractors".
oh please, you aren't even responding to my comment or claims. You are just pulling stuff out of your crack. NATO own studies have shown over and over again that an issue it constantly faced is the uneven spending (as ratio to GPD) of its members and the reluctance of members to put their troops within joint commands.
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The fact the agenda isn't hidden does not make it less evil. I remind you that Soros (through his Open Society Foundations) supports illegal immigration and people smuggling into the EU: http://news.sky.com/story/sky-finds-handbook-for-eu-bound-mi... His organizations and owned media regularly attack every politician or activist who is against uncontrolled immigration, all over the Europe. His goal apparently is to i…
That someone supports a political agenda you disagree with does not make them nefarious and this kind of rhetoric really spoils the whole political process. There are a lot of humanitarian reasons why someone might support migration to Europe from an active war zone, you know.
If OSF wants more immigrants in EU, they should buy flight tickets, and sponsor visa applications.
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it is simply 'innocent before proven guilty'. a great american ideal. also, there are proof dugged up by the great american press. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/15/us/politics/paul-manafort-... "Handwritten ledgers show $12.7 million in undisclosed cash payments designated for Mr. Manafort from Mr. Yanukovych’s pro-Russian political party from 2007 to 2012"
Yes I saw that quote too. Handwritten ledger means zip.
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#59Cyber war is much preferable to real war. Letting Putin throw the secrets of his enemies into the light to influence an election is probably going to stoke a retaliatory response but another generation of humans will grow up without total war upon them. Mutually assured destruction is a hell of a deterrent.
There is no proof whatsoever that Russia released these materials. In case of the North Korean hacks the US government raised the issue at the UN and provided proof for it to justify sanctions. None of this happened here. I suspect that the Democrats and the very biased media are attempting to divert attention from the content of these leaks away. (like for example Soros basically telling Hillary what to do regarding…
The left leaning presidents of old did not openly participate in corruption of the US Constitution nor did they willfully undermine the American worker for the benefit of Wall St.
Obama? He hired the architect of the Mortgage Crisis, Henry Paulson, as his Treasury Secretary. That's like hiring El Chapo Guzman as the head of the DEA. And it doesn't end there.
I think the entire political spectrum has been captured by corrupt oligarchs. There is no real right or left anymore, just a group of vicious oligarchs battling for supremacy using the old colors so that people accept them.
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That someone supports a political agenda you disagree with does not make them nefarious and this kind of rhetoric really spoils the whole political process. There are a lot of humanitarian reasons why someone might support migration to Europe from an active war zone, you know.
> migration to Europe from an active war zone What slowly turns Europe into active war zone itself... It's not about 'political agenda I disagree', it's about actions and their results.