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In Texas, a man who didn’t kill anybody is about to be executed for murder

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Re: In Texas, a man who didn’t kill anybody is about to be executed for murder

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Post by techdragon »

jrapdx3 wrote: post #19
danso wrote: post #5

IMO, the real apparent injustice in this case is the prosecutor's use of a forensic psychiatrist who apparently has a cottage industry in testifying against defendants: > Wood was committed to a mental health hospital after he was found incompetent. A neuropsychologist had testified that Wood was delusional, unable to grasp the issues about his case and the reality facing him... > The writ of habeas corpus, filed in…

Obviously I don't know all the details of the case but I find it troublesome that a psychiatrist would render an opinion without examining the individual who is the object of the opinion. On its face this is unethical particularly in a situation where there's so much at stake. I'm aware that "assessment at a distance" is frequently sought, for example, reviewing clinical info in the medical record to determine if ser…

It's troubling that his input is still considered sufficient to render a judgement. That one person was of poor moral character and has been appropriately expelled from his profession by his more reputable peers is just, proper, and generally how things are supposed to work. (My use of "supposed to work" no way implies belief in a world where "supposed to work" is equals "is how it actually works")

Re: In Texas, a man who didn’t kill anybody is about to be executed for murder

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Post by Mithaldu »

allendoerfer wrote: post #24

I am neither Texan nor American, so this is an outsiders perspective: What I do not get is how the EU can just blatantly ignore this. When one of our politicians travels to an Arab country or to China and does not address the human rights situation clear enough, he or she will be bashed. When Turkey starts talking about reintroducing capital punishment the instant reactions are that this will end the negotiations abo…

Simple: From a distance the usa looks civilized enough that people forget that piece of barbarism exists. Also: Ocean inbetween.

Re: In Texas, a man who didn’t kill anybody is about to be executed for murder

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Post by makomk »

allendoerfer wrote: post #24

I am neither Texan nor American, so this is an outsiders perspective: What I do not get is how the EU can just blatantly ignore this. When one of our politicians travels to an Arab country or to China and does not address the human rights situation clear enough, he or she will be bashed. When Turkey starts talking about reintroducing capital punishment the instant reactions are that this will end the negotiations abo…

They can't. The EU requires its members not to extradite anyone to the US if there's any possibility that a death sentence might be applied. On the other hand, China has a whole lot more human rights issues than the US.

Re: In Texas, a man who didn’t kill anybody is about to be executed for murder

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Post by erichocean »

nikatwork wrote: post #40
morbotron2000 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1) According to the best available evidence, a sizable majority of Texans favor the death penalty. 2) If you strongly oppose the death penalty, can you provide examples of what you've done to reduce it? You've already noted that you chose to live in a way that provides financial support for the death penalty.. what are you doing to offset that? What organizations do you donate to, or volunteer with? What have you don…

> you are, on net, supporting it. I haven't donated to any anti Boko Haram orgs. Does that mean I support murdering children?

Depends, do you pay taxes to Boko Haram? If so, it's hard to argue you don't—at some level—provide "support" for what they do.

Re: In Texas, a man who didn’t kill anybody is about to be executed for murder

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Post by [deleted] »

allendoerfer wrote: post #24

I am neither Texan nor American, so this is an outsiders perspective: What I do not get is how the EU can just blatantly ignore this. When one of our politicians travels to an Arab country or to China and does not address the human rights situation clear enough, he or she will be bashed. When Turkey starts talking about reintroducing capital punishment the instant reactions are that this will end the negotiations abo…

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Re: In Texas, a man who didn’t kill anybody is about to be executed for murder

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Post by bArray »

dec0dedab0de wrote: post #31
bArray wrote: post #28

I think if he's found not guilty he deserves some kind of compensation. You can't just keep somebody in limbo like that, knowing they will "die soon" for years. It is mental torture. What he's going through now is arguably worse than being found guilty. You can't justify that. They're punishing him and his family repeatedly. I think this is a perfect example of the US completely getting it wrong. If states can't get…

I think this is a perfect example of the US completely getting it wrong. If states can't get it right, I think the ability to arbitrarily punish serious crimes should be dissolved to upper government. Why it makes a difference what state you're in is beyond me. I thought it was something they were phasing out of. Because if it were all handled at a higher level, there is a very good chance these types of policies wou…

The reason it takes such effort to change things at the top is a problem that needs sorting in it's own right. There's a lot of corruption.

Why do you think these policies would be in place for more? I this rubbish would be gone, weed legalised and it would make it easier to change the political system. In the UK the decentralised part of government is the worst bit.

Re: In Texas, a man who didn’t kill anybody is about to be executed for murder

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Post by allendoerfer »

makomk wrote: post #43
allendoerfer wrote: post #24

I am neither Texan nor American, so this is an outsiders perspective: What I do not get is how the EU can just blatantly ignore this. When one of our politicians travels to an Arab country or to China and does not address the human rights situation clear enough, he or she will be bashed. When Turkey starts talking about reintroducing capital punishment the instant reactions are that this will end the negotiations abo…

They can't. The EU requires its members not to extradite anyone to the US if there's any possibility that a death sentence might be applied. On the other hand, China has a whole lot more human rights issues than the US.

The US holds itself to higher standards. It tries to get Europe to fight wars together in the name of these standards, so it should be held accountable. China is corrupt to the core, they do not claim anything else and nobody expects anything different.

I am not saying that we can or should do anything about it, just that we have to point these things out if do not want to lose our face.

Re: In Texas, a man who didn’t kill anybody is about to be executed for murder

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Post by morbotron2000 »

techsupporter wrote: post #36
morbotron2000 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1) According to the best available evidence, a sizable majority of Texans favor the death penalty. 2) If you strongly oppose the death penalty, can you provide examples of what you've done to reduce it? You've already noted that you chose to live in a way that provides financial support for the death penalty.. what are you doing to offset that? What organizations do you donate to, or volunteer with? What have you don…

As to your first point, I said "many," not most, dislike the death penalty. Even at its most pessimistic, 19% strongly opposed, that's 4 million voters who are opposed. I think that qualifies as many, though perhaps it is a distinction without a difference for you. I might should not have said it. On your second, I don't know how my personal actions are relevant here, but I will recite them for you because I am on a…

No. You are now lying. You said that 'not many' support it, but a majority do. Go re-read your original post.

I have not read beyond your first paragraph, because you clearly demonstrated that you are EXTREMELY DISHONEST in it, and there is zero value in attempting conversation with a proven liar.

Re: In Texas, a man who didn’t kill anybody is about to be executed for murder

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Post by morbotron2000 »

nikatwork wrote: post #40
morbotron2000 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1) According to the best available evidence, a sizable majority of Texans favor the death penalty. 2) If you strongly oppose the death penalty, can you provide examples of what you've done to reduce it? You've already noted that you chose to live in a way that provides financial support for the death penalty.. what are you doing to offset that? What organizations do you donate to, or volunteer with? What have you don…

> you are, on net, supporting it. I haven't donated to any anti Boko Haram orgs. Does that mean I support murdering children?

If you choose to live in a place where you voluntarily pay taxes to Boko Haram, and you do not use any time, money, or energy to oppose those policies, then yes.
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