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Re: Meme pages plan mass revolt against alleged Facebook bias

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nommm-nommm wrote: post #33
taneq wrote: post #26

I think the underlying problem here which will have to be addressed at some point is that there's no recourse and often no real communication when a company decides to ban a person or delete content. There needs to be a consistent freedom-of-information style mechanism where someone can request a review of a decision by a human, and a non-generic explanation, accompanied by a chance to download a copy of the deleted…

Call me a dick but I don't believe Facebook "owes" anyone a review or explanation. You're playing in their sandbox.

Although that's true, they also shouldn't be surprised that people call them out for it, and try to organize actions against them.

Re: Meme pages plan mass revolt against alleged Facebook bias

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Post by CaptSpify »

dvcrn wrote: post #57

This site is literally unusable for me. I don't know what it's doing in the background but I can't let it load. I had to open it and immediately start the Safari reader to be able to read this article.

Umatrix makes it work for me. Even if you set it to default allow, and blacklist sites like this, it's worth the time to set up, imo.

Re: Meme pages plan mass revolt against alleged Facebook bias

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Post by nommm-nommm »

nitrogen wrote: post #38
nommm-nommm wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Call me a dick but I don't believe Facebook "owes" anyone a review or explanation. You're playing in their sandbox.

When a social network manipulates its way into a controlling position in people's lives, that network should have much stronger controls than some random site. We are talking about the scale of continents here, not sandboxes.

No it shouldn't, it doesn't owe you anything. There is a really inflated sense of self going on here.

Think of all the garbage that gets posted by people everywhere. Would you want to deal with the expense and overhead?

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Post by nommm-nommm »

hga wrote: post #56
noobermin wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The issue with that is we are assuming that someone has the same freedoms in a public park that they do in a hotel lobby. Some are truly unalienable, but if the manager wants you out, damn your freedom, you're on private property. I'm not sure what the remedy is, if there can be one. fb is essentially a social utility, but it is a private entity and since you click a checkbox under a terms of service, so they can do…

The same "private property" where I can run a segregated lunch counter or refuse to bake a gay wedding cake? Sorry, truly private property and the previous principles of negative freedom of association died a hard death in the 1960s, and it's only a matter of time until Facebook et. al. are brought to heel (or worse).

>The same "private property" where I can run a segregated lunch counter or refuse to bake a gay wedding cake?

You are being banned from the lunch counter based on who you are, not what you are doing at that lunch counter.

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Post by kierdavis »

shpx wrote: post #46
noobermin wrote: post #4

topic: a number of these have "Japanese" in the titles. There is a internet-subculture called "vaporwave" connected with the "dank meme" people. There are...inspired by Japanese culture, they most likely aren't Japanese. OT rant: this page has made almost 600 requests in the last 4 minutes[0]. My connection isn't the best and I'm seeing a direct effect. Is this the new standard for news sites? And it's still pulling…

For those interested in vaporwave here's a "documentary" [0]. If you're interested you should listen to this album [1]. I like anything by t e l e p a t h テレパシー能力者, like [2] and [3] are good albums. There's a related genre called Future Funk [4]. There's a few albums that mix trap with vaporwave like [5] (my all time favorite song right now) and [6]. Here are some more albums I like [7] [8]. If you want even more the…

If you're interested in the music of 2814 and t e l e p a t h テレパシー能力者 then I highly recommend you check out DARKPYRAMID [1] and チェスマスター [2] too.

Also, a couple of great future funk albums I'm into at the moment are [3] and [4] - you might like them (if you haven't seen them already of course).

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc6ldi6APWM DARKPYRAMID - A Heart Full Of Love [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2mHUc0lIOM チェスマスター - I Am Chesumasuta [3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cxKq9gvaOs Yung Bae - Bae [4] https://vantagenoise.bandcamp.com/album/metro-city Vantage - Metro City

Re: Meme pages plan mass revolt against alleged Facebook bias

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Post by hga »

nommm-nommm wrote: post #64
hga wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The same "private property" where I can run a segregated lunch counter or refuse to bake a gay wedding cake? Sorry, truly private property and the previous principles of negative freedom of association died a hard death in the 1960s, and it's only a matter of time until Facebook et. al. are brought to heel (or worse).

>The same "private property" where I can run a segregated lunch counter or refuse to bake a gay wedding cake? You are being banned from the lunch counter based on who you are , not what you are doing at that lunch counter.

A difference without a distinction when who you are, a non-"liberal"/progressive/Leftist member of the "Right" is the real reason, the "what you are doing" is just providing the evidence of what you are.

I notice you're not extending your argument to the latest example I cited of forced baking of gay wedding cakes. In that case, until the gay couple reveal they are such, there's no's issue, e.g. they could meet a Biblically observant baker half-way by substituting a M/M or F/F figure at the top after taking delivery, and customize the frosting if needed/desired.

Don't ask, don't tell, more traditionally "live and let live", is a old American tradition they could tap into if they were only looking for a solution to line item on a wedding checklist. But that's not their agenda when they make their demands of such establishments, they're demanding full acceptance of who they are with the full coercive force of the state behind them.

Re: Meme pages plan mass revolt against alleged Facebook bias

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Post by nitrogen »

nommm-nommm wrote: post #63
nitrogen wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When a social network manipulates its way into a controlling position in people's lives, that network should have much stronger controls than some random site. We are talking about the scale of continents here, not sandboxes.

No it shouldn't, it doesn't owe you anything. There is a really inflated sense of self going on here. Think of all the garbage that gets posted by people everywhere. Would you want to deal with the expense and overhead?

You haven't really said why.
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