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Re: Meme pages plan mass revolt against alleged Facebook bias

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Post by noobermin »

Waterluvian wrote: post #16
cjslep wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure why you were downvoted. Something Awful, while incredibly influential early on, didn't really grow because of the paid nature of the forums. 4chan exploded because of the anonymous nature of the memes. They were funny, and they weren't tied to the creator to boost his or her internet points. They are pure ideas coming from the level playing field that is Anonymous. Awful and great stuff arose out of it when…

There is something beautiful about how pure the content on 4chan is because there's no e peen.

Unfortunately, the ephemeral nature does have its downsides. It guarantees that most of the posts will be short, stupid reposts of old content. However, you can't have true anonymity without the limited lifetime of posts. Also, it accelerates natural selection. Garbage memes won't make it to the next thread.

Re: Meme pages plan mass revolt against alleged Facebook bias

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Post by niftich »

fhrjchcjdnc wrote: post #9

It's pretty bizarre how 4chan of all places turned out to be the cultural epicenter of this generation. All these meme pages are just reposting content from there.

4chan, or more specifically, /b/, moves fast and several mechanisms (like the 150-image limit per thread) are in place to keep it that way. The limited lifetime and ephemerality of content encourages people to save things they find good, to be reposted later and frequently for others to see.

Therefore the /b/ experience, although often trashy at best, vulgar and hateful at worst, does allow good content to organically bubble to the top, and not just by absent-mindedly clicking the 'reblog'/'retweet'/'share' button, but by individuals uploading the same saved image or composing a derivative work. It's the internet equivalent of one-off barroom quips, of graffiti in bathroom stalls, of spray paint tags on urban blight. It's us humans at some of our best, and some of our worst.

Re: Meme pages plan mass revolt against alleged Facebook bias

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Post by nommm-nommm »

taneq wrote: post #26

I think the underlying problem here which will have to be addressed at some point is that there's no recourse and often no real communication when a company decides to ban a person or delete content. There needs to be a consistent freedom-of-information style mechanism where someone can request a review of a decision by a human, and a non-generic explanation, accompanied by a chance to download a copy of the deleted…

Call me a dick but I don't believe Facebook "owes" anyone a review or explanation. You're playing in their sandbox.

Re: Meme pages plan mass revolt against alleged Facebook bias

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Post by adamnemecek »

noobermin wrote: post #4

topic: a number of these have "Japanese" in the titles. There is a internet-subculture called "vaporwave" connected with the "dank meme" people. There are...inspired by Japanese culture, they most likely aren't Japanese. OT rant: this page has made almost 600 requests in the last 4 minutes[0]. My connection isn't the best and I'm seeing a direct effect. Is this the new standard for news sites? And it's still pulling…

There's a new subsubculture of vaporwave called simpsonswave (https://www.reddit.com/r/simpsonswave/)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTfa-9aCTYg

http://pitchfork.com/thepitch/1188-what-the-hell-is-simpsonw...

I really love the development of "internet culture".

Re: Meme pages plan mass revolt against alleged Facebook bias

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Post by benkant »

noobermin wrote: post #4

topic: a number of these have "Japanese" in the titles. There is a internet-subculture called "vaporwave" connected with the "dank meme" people. There are...inspired by Japanese culture, they most likely aren't Japanese. OT rant: this page has made almost 600 requests in the last 4 minutes[0]. My connection isn't the best and I'm seeing a direct effect. Is this the new standard for news sites? And it's still pulling…

A lot of this content originates from 4chan and other image boards.

Re: Meme pages plan mass revolt against alleged Facebook bias

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Post by noobermin »

taneq wrote: post #26

I think the underlying problem here which will have to be addressed at some point is that there's no recourse and often no real communication when a company decides to ban a person or delete content. There needs to be a consistent freedom-of-information style mechanism where someone can request a review of a decision by a human, and a non-generic explanation, accompanied by a chance to download a copy of the deleted…

The issue with that is we are assuming that someone has the same freedoms in a public park that they do in a hotel lobby. Some are truly unalienable, but if the manager wants you out, damn your freedom, you're on private property.

I'm not sure what the remedy is, if there can be one. fb is essentially a social utility, but it is a private entity and since you click a checkbox under a terms of service, so they can do whatever they want.

Re: Meme pages plan mass revolt against alleged Facebook bias

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Post by nitrogen »

nommm-nommm wrote: post #33
taneq wrote: post #26

I think the underlying problem here which will have to be addressed at some point is that there's no recourse and often no real communication when a company decides to ban a person or delete content. There needs to be a consistent freedom-of-information style mechanism where someone can request a review of a decision by a human, and a non-generic explanation, accompanied by a chance to download a copy of the deleted…

Call me a dick but I don't believe Facebook "owes" anyone a review or explanation. You're playing in their sandbox.

When a social network manipulates its way into a controlling position in people's lives, that network should have much stronger controls than some random site. We are talking about the scale of continents here, not sandboxes.

Re: Meme pages plan mass revolt against alleged Facebook bias

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Post by skylan_q »

noobermin wrote: post #30
adamnemecek wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the only culture people are __in mass__ producing right now.

I think he is being sarcastic.

no, i'm actually being genuine. i can only watch pulp fiction so many times before i realize the same movie is being made over and over again
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