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Re: Meme pages plan mass revolt against alleged Facebook bias

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Post by noobermin »

sotojuan wrote: post #10
noobermin wrote: post #4

topic: a number of these have "Japanese" in the titles. There is a internet-subculture called "vaporwave" connected with the "dank meme" people. There are...inspired by Japanese culture, they most likely aren't Japanese. OT rant: this page has made almost 600 requests in the last 4 minutes[0]. My connection isn't the best and I'm seeing a direct effect. Is this the new standard for news sites? And it's still pulling…

I don't think they're inspired by Japanese culture as much as have random Japanese characters for no reason and sometimes random anime characters as some form of irony.

Hence the dramatic ellipsis before "inspired."

Full disclosure, I'm a pretty big fan of vaporwave "music".

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Post by cjslep »

fhrjchcjdnc wrote: post #9

It's pretty bizarre how 4chan of all places turned out to be the cultural epicenter of this generation. All these meme pages are just reposting content from there.

Not sure why you were downvoted. Something Awful, while incredibly influential early on, didn't really grow because of the paid nature of the forums. 4chan exploded because of the anonymous nature of the memes. They were funny, and they weren't tied to the creator to boost his or her internet points. They are pure ideas coming from the level playing field that is Anonymous. Awful and great stuff arose out of it when its biggest competitor was flash-based stuff from ebaumsworld, funnyjunk, black sheep, and newgrounds.

Now I'd say Reddit is a huge influencer but it is fragmented (as opposed to a single /b/) and still tied to internet points. And missing the pink babies from Something Awful.

Re: Meme pages plan mass revolt against alleged Facebook bias

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Post by sotojuan »

fhrjchcjdnc wrote: post #9

It's pretty bizarre how 4chan of all places turned out to be the cultural epicenter of this generation. All these meme pages are just reposting content from there.

And of course, by the time it's on Facebook and "regular teens" use it, it's as far removed from 4chan as HN is. Post one of these memes there and you'll get flamed for being a "normalfag".

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Post by sotojuan »

noobermin wrote: post #11
sotojuan wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think they're inspired by Japanese culture as much as have random Japanese characters for no reason and sometimes random anime characters as some form of irony.

Hence the dramatic ellipsis before "inspired." Full disclosure, I'm a pretty big fan of vaporwave "music".

Ah, my eyes somehow missed them! I've always wondered why Japanese characters of all things, but they do have good typography.

Re: Meme pages plan mass revolt against alleged Facebook bias

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Post by k-mcgrady »

adamnemecek wrote: post #5
corndoge wrote: post #2

really thought provoking material here

say what you will about memes but i think that the fact that people are making memes hints at the fact that they are trying to fill some sort of creative void. yes, they are stupid but it's a step up from the previous state which was no creative expression at all.

The previous state was using text to get a thought across. That's not creative?

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Post by Waterluvian »

cjslep wrote: post #12
fhrjchcjdnc wrote: post #9

It's pretty bizarre how 4chan of all places turned out to be the cultural epicenter of this generation. All these meme pages are just reposting content from there.

Not sure why you were downvoted. Something Awful, while incredibly influential early on, didn't really grow because of the paid nature of the forums. 4chan exploded because of the anonymous nature of the memes. They were funny, and they weren't tied to the creator to boost his or her internet points. They are pure ideas coming from the level playing field that is Anonymous. Awful and great stuff arose out of it when…

There is something beautiful about how pure the content on 4chan is because there's no e peen.

Re: Meme pages plan mass revolt against alleged Facebook bias

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Post by sotojuan »

Waterluvian wrote: post #16
cjslep wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure why you were downvoted. Something Awful, while incredibly influential early on, didn't really grow because of the paid nature of the forums. 4chan exploded because of the anonymous nature of the memes. They were funny, and they weren't tied to the creator to boost his or her internet points. They are pure ideas coming from the level playing field that is Anonymous. Awful and great stuff arose out of it when…

There is something beautiful about how pure the content on 4chan is because there's no e peen.

And people who try to build an identity are almost always disliked (though the ones that persevere make the site more fun).

Re: Meme pages plan mass revolt against alleged Facebook bias

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Post by adamnemecek »

geofft wrote: post #8
adamnemecek wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

say what you will about memes but i think that the fact that people are making memes hints at the fact that they are trying to fill some sort of creative void. yes, they are stupid but it's a step up from the previous state which was no creative expression at all.

> the previous state which was no creative expression at all. The previous state of what? When was this?

Pre-memes.

Re: Meme pages plan mass revolt against alleged Facebook bias

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Post by foota »

noobermin wrote: post #4

topic: a number of these have "Japanese" in the titles. There is a internet-subculture called "vaporwave" connected with the "dank meme" people. There are...inspired by Japanese culture, they most likely aren't Japanese. OT rant: this page has made almost 600 requests in the last 4 minutes[0]. My connection isn't the best and I'm seeing a direct effect. Is this the new standard for news sites? And it's still pulling…

I seriously hope that page is broken, for my own sanity.

Re: Meme pages plan mass revolt against alleged Facebook bias

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Post by geofft »

adamnemecek wrote: post #18
geofft wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the previous state which was no creative expression at all. The previous state of what? When was this?

Pre-memes.

There was no creative expression before memes were invented?

(To be clear, my position is that you are selling memes short. "They are stupid" misses the entire point of what's valuable about them, and more importantly, which ones are valuable.)

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