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Re: WikiLeaks offers $20,000 for information on former DNC staffer's murder

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The DNC also has in its charter that they must work to get Democratic candidates elected and work towards getting the ideals of the Democratic Party implemented. Sanders didn't lose because the DNC said mean things in their internal email system. He likely lost because he never made much of a dent in the heavily black Democratic voting population in the South.

Did I say anything about why he lost? In fact most of these e-mails released so far occurred after he had little chance of winning. Nope, pure distraction in an attempt to deflect from my points. Also see: https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/11056 I'm sure you'll be back to "correct the record"!

> In fact most of these e-mails released so far occurred after he had little chance of winning.

That would seem to deflate your point a bit. Surely the DNC isn't violating its neutrality promise if the candidate has effectively been already chosen?

> I'm sure you'll be back to "correct the record"!

I've seen this thrown around several times in this thread. Is it an accusation I'm being paid by the Hillary campaign? If so, LOL.

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Except for a few people who had to quit their jobs and clear favoritism from the DNC chief which is supposed to be neutral: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Democratic_National_Commi...

Which is, again, not evidence that anything got rigged . The RNC had a similar anti-Trump preference. There's similarly no evidence they rigged anything against him.

There is proof that the RNC did not rig the elections against Trump, he won. That's impossible if it was rigged.

While there may not be proof that the DNC rigged it against Sanders, that doesn't prove it wasn't rigged. It only proves that no evidence has come to light that it was rigged.

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Of course you'll be called a "conspiracy theorist" for speculating about this case in any way deviating from the official narrative. But the circumstances are extremely suspicious. The DNC voter expansion data director was found shot dead, assassination style, two bullets in the back, in one of the safest neighborhoods of DC. Nothing was taken off his person. No forensic evidence was left behind. Yet the police deeme…

It occurred around 4 in the morning, in an area with several recent robberies. He was also pretty banged up apparently, implying a struggle. If you were intending to assassinate someone, you probably wouldn't fight with them first.

Unless you don't want it to look like a assasination

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Did I say anything about why he lost? In fact most of these e-mails released so far occurred after he had little chance of winning. Nope, pure distraction in an attempt to deflect from my points. Also see: https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/11056 I'm sure you'll be back to "correct the record"!

> In fact most of these e-mails released so far occurred after he had little chance of winning. That would seem to deflate your point a bit. Surely the DNC isn't violating its neutrality promise if the candidate has effectively been already chosen? > I'm sure you'll be back to "correct the record"! I've seen this thrown around several times in this thread. Is it an accusation I'm being paid by the Hillary campaign? I…

Not at all. They are to remain neutral as long as they claimed they were. Sanders was still an active candidate through the DC primary, and he actively contested the California primary.

The candidate had not been chosen, but the DNC lackeys (edit: sorry, top officials) were coordinating media coverage against him.

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This is false, and your "correcting the record" is only spreading mistruths. This e-mail in particular is clear discussion of acting on promoting a narrative (i.e. shopping it to news organizations) to discredit Bernie's campaign: https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/11056 I'm sure you'll find a way to explain that away though.

I feel like I'm just a curious bystander here - I haven't read much about the emails, nor looked at any of them individually until clicking on your link, so I really haven't formed an opinion on how noxious they are - but I don't see the smoking gun you seem to see in that email... Could you provide some more perspective on the issue, for those of us who are new to this debate?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/07/24/he...

The religion, "Bernie's campaign is disorganized" talking points, and Hillary Victory Fund e-mails are the most odious in my opinion.

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Sounds great! Please post your complete medical and financial history here. Thanks!

Ok. Medical: chronic PVT, and pseudobraintumor due to tetracycline allergie. Financial History 40k per year from 2011-2015 , last year no income, master student CS. That sums it up, I should probably post the details on github soon, since that is the policy of the company im founding following buffer.io precedent. It is my firm belief that openness and honesty is as important for societal progress as it is for the sc…

That's great! But this is a personal decision, and I would never do what you just did. Let's just both agree not to force our differing personal feelings about privacy on the other, and we won't have an issue.

Re: WikiLeaks offers $20,000 for information on former DNC staffer's murder

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This is false, and your "correcting the record" is only spreading mistruths. This e-mail in particular is clear discussion of acting on promoting a narrative (i.e. shopping it to news organizations) to discredit Bernie's campaign: https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/11056 I'm sure you'll find a way to explain that away though.

This email is dated May 21, just 2 weeks before AP called the primary for Clinton. It was pretty clear by that point to everyone that Clinton would win the primary. I'm not surprised to see DNC discussing narratives for the point when the primary is over. This is no evidence that the primary was rigged.

Bernie had not conceded and the DNC still was obligated to be neutral. And yet, they were not.

So strange that they forgot to mention to shop this story around after the primary. How did you pick up on this intent of theirs without them saying it?

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You are incorrect. DNC is not state funded.

Actually, in several states the two-party system is baked pretty deeply into the state-level laws. Pennsylvania, for example, has a primary system where one has to declare whether one is Democrat, Republican, or Independent, and then must vote on the ballot corresponding to that declaration (with the Independent ballot holding only referendum questions and not any input into the primary process). Those elections use…

That's a bit of a stretch to reach the conclusion the DNC and RNC are "state funded". Poll workers are volunteers, the machines are bought with taxpayer money but they are used for multiple types elections (from state to federal).

Re: WikiLeaks offers $20,000 for information on former DNC staffer's murder

#139

Of course you'll be called a "conspiracy theorist" for speculating about this case in any way deviating from the official narrative. But the circumstances are extremely suspicious. The DNC voter expansion data director was found shot dead, assassination style, two bullets in the back, in one of the safest neighborhoods of DC. Nothing was taken off his person. No forensic evidence was left behind. Yet the police deeme…

I live 2 blocks from where he was shot. It is a huge stretch to call the neighborhood "one of the safest". There were two armed robberies within one week of his murder on the same block he was killed. It is very reasonable to think it was a robbery gone wrong.

Also, since when is "assassination style" shooting someone in the lower back allowing them to live long enough to get to a hospital?

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It occurred around 4 in the morning, in an area with several recent robberies. He was also pretty banged up apparently, implying a struggle. If you were intending to assassinate someone, you probably wouldn't fight with them first.

Unless you don't want it to look like a assasination

But by that reasoning, if the wallet was gone too you'd be saying that's all part of the cover-up. Any evidence you're wrong is only evidence you're right!
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