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How to Have Healthy Relationships as a Developer

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Re: How to Have Healthy Relationships as a Developer

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I think everybody got the point. The dude was writting blog about keeping healthy social life, not sexuality. If we keep splitting it to atoms, it would be pretty distracting experience for writter of any blog post. Being a little bit inclusive doesn't cost much, but it could cost a lot if you go by your logic for every other thing...

Is there a book or a list of ways to brush an issue under the carpet? This is one of them, one of the most pernicious. The language we use, especially the language we use casually, defines how we appear. To those outside the predominantly straight white male clique of programming, repeated exposure to these casual assumptions of stereotype pile up and create a sense that those not fitting the stereotype are unwelcome…

Please don't use racist language on HN.

Re: How to Have Healthy Relationships as a Developer

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User name xkcd-sucks. Not a fan of coding for fun. Hackathons? Have you ever just wanted to write a web scraper in a new language to see how it is different from your usual? Never coded a small video game? Why are you a programmer then?

Do you ever find yourself interacting with a carpenter and asking him why he doesn't build additions to his house, or his friend's homes in his free time? What about an accountant? Ever quiz them or deride them for not going out of their way to balance budgets and crunch numbers for family & friends? Why is programming this anomaly to people where there's a necessity for you to want to spend your personal hours doing…

>Do you ever find yourself interacting with a carpenter and asking him why he doesn't build additions to his house, or his friend's homes in his free time? What about an accountant? Ever quiz them or deride them for not going out of their way to balance budgets and crunch numbers for family & friends?

These make no sense. There's a huge, huge difference between building an addition to your house and building additions on all your friends' houses. I like to do all the maintenance on my own car, and I'll do it on my spouse's car, but I'm not about to volunteer to do maintenance on all my friends' cars too unless they're having a real hardship and need a little help to get out of a bind. I may know how to work on cars, but that doesn't mean I have infinite time to help everyone I know with theirs; there's other stuff I'd like to do with my spare time. If a carpenter has no interest in doing any carpenter-ing on his own personal house, that doesn't sound like a top-notch carpenter to me. I knew a guy not too long ago who was a carpenter/woodworker, and he absolutely did have a bunch of stuff in his house that he had made himself.

For an accountant, I would really hope that a decent accountant would want to do a great job balancing their own personal household budget for their family. If you're an accountant but you can't manage your own family's finances, then I wouldn't want to hire you. But that again doesn't mean you have infinite time to balance budgets for all your friends and extended family.

If a guy is a plumber but then calls another plumber when he has a leaky pipe, instead of just fixing it himself, what does that say about his professional abilities? If someone is an auto mechanic but doesn't even do his own auto maintenance and repair, what does that say about his abilities?

If someone is a professional and passionate about their career and work, then I absolutely do expect them to carry that into their off-hours to some extent. I would not expect them, however, to spend all their free time doing free work for all the people in their life. But I absolutely do expect them to make use of their skills for themselves and their own household. I'll make an exception for dentists, however (just for themselves).

Re: How to Have Healthy Relationships as a Developer

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LPT though: have friends at work but don't flirt with them. I had a really good friend at work for a while but it always had this flirty undercurrent. We both had SOs, but enjoyed the "office wife/husband" thing (my real wife actually knew about it and was not jealous). Anyway, the flirtationship thing makes you as vulnerable to criticism as an actual relationship, so the occasional sarcastic tirade or bad mood day r…

>LPT though: have friends at work but don't flirt with them.

I'm a software engineer, and a hetero male. Why would I want to flirt with other men?

I frequently wish I had gone into another career (probably medical) so I could try out this flirting with coworkers thing I keep hearing about.

Re: How to Have Healthy Relationships as a Developer

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Probably an implied "good" modifier in there. Good relationships are a key part of being happy. Bad relationships...not so much

I would disagree that this is the case for everyone. I think a small number of people are happier without relationships.

Fair enough. What do you define a relationship as? I understood it as "any repeated interaction with a person on a meaningful level"

Re: How to Have Healthy Relationships as a Developer

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LPT though: have friends at work but don't flirt with them. I had a really good friend at work for a while but it always had this flirty undercurrent. We both had SOs, but enjoyed the "office wife/husband" thing (my real wife actually knew about it and was not jealous). Anyway, the flirtationship thing makes you as vulnerable to criticism as an actual relationship, so the occasional sarcastic tirade or bad mood day r…

>LPT though: have friends at work but don't flirt with them. I'm a software engineer, and a hetero male. Why would I want to flirt with other men? I frequently wish I had gone into another career (probably medical) so I could try out this flirting with coworkers thing I keep hearing about.

Welp, a corollary of what I said is that it's better to flirt with people outside of work.

Re: How to Have Healthy Relationships as a Developer

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> Relationships are a key part of being happy Is this really true for everyone? I sacrificed my relationship because I prioritize my projects and I've never been happier. I can't imagine getting into another since it would mean compromises I'm not willing to make.

Probably an implied "good" modifier in there. Good relationships are a key part of being happy. Bad relationships...not so much

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Re: How to Have Healthy Relationships as a Developer

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LPT though: have friends at work but don't flirt with them. I had a really good friend at work for a while but it always had this flirty undercurrent. We both had SOs, but enjoyed the "office wife/husband" thing (my real wife actually knew about it and was not jealous). Anyway, the flirtationship thing makes you as vulnerable to criticism as an actual relationship, so the occasional sarcastic tirade or bad mood day r…

>LPT though: have friends at work but don't flirt with them. I'm a software engineer, and a hetero male. Why would I want to flirt with other men? I frequently wish I had gone into another career (probably medical) so I could try out this flirting with coworkers thing I keep hearing about.

Medical is so bureaucratic that there are draconian policies to prevent flirting at work.

I'd suggest the fashion, tourism or entertainment industries.

Re: How to Have Healthy Relationships as a Developer

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I do exhausting sports almost everyday (martial arts). Two hours if sweating put your mind in a very different state. Music is good as well. Anything that starts up other brain areas than "watching" and "reading".

That's odd, because in the martial arts I do (aikido), I've always been amazed by how similar of a state it puts you into: trying to get into the zone, concentrate on what you're doing right now, and block any other distractions.

I'm doing silat. Many of our trainings are kinda "clocked", meaning you do the movements in a certain pace, so you don't have time to get distracted in the first place.

Re: How to Have Healthy Relationships as a Developer

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Try going analogue, find a hobby that doesn't involve a computer (music, cooking, hiking etc.). I find if I do even a small amount of a few different activities in a day, it feels a lot more full . A day spent coding, then going home to cook dinner and read a book always feel better than a day spent coding, then going home to browse the internet or even work on a coding side project (if I get around to those, they're…

> Try going analogue, find a hobby that doesn't involve a computer (music, cooking, hiking etc.) I would suggest to find a hobby that involves other people.

Hiking IS a group activity. There's countless hiking clubs on Meetup.com. They frequently seem to serve as singles mixers in fact.

Music is also a group activity. Have you never heard of a "band" (or "garage band")?

There's also cooking clubs on Meetup.com.

What exactly is your idea of a hobby that involves other people?

Re: How to Have Healthy Relationships as a Developer

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>LPT though: have friends at work but don't flirt with them. I'm a software engineer, and a hetero male. Why would I want to flirt with other men? I frequently wish I had gone into another career (probably medical) so I could try out this flirting with coworkers thing I keep hearing about.

Welp, a corollary of what I said is that it's better to flirt with people outside of work.

That'd be nice if I had some way of meeting people outside of work, besides dating apps.

Are you one of those people who really thinks a grocery store is a place to meet women?

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