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Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by jeffmould »

scholia wrote: post #145
jeffmould wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Actually I have a huge issue with Gmail spam filters being over aggressive. Replies to my own emails often find their way to my spam box. I check the spam folder daily and notice at least 5-10 emails that are not spam getting sucked in. Even if I mark them Not Spam, the next day an email from the same address will end up right back there.

I have the same problem. At one time, more than half the Gmail spambox was legitimate email, so I had to check it every day. (It was so bad, I kept screen grabs as evidence.) This year, things got much better for a few months, and now they are getting worse again....

The middle of last year is when it started for me. It only affects my personal Gmail account, though. My Google for Business account seems to work fine, and I get a lot more mail there. I can't imagine they use two different filters, but it seems to almost be the case. Either that or there is a bug in one platform with the Not Spam button not working properly.

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by thatrascaltiger »

bad_user wrote: post #76

I'm a FastMail customer. Here's some things I like and why I switched from Gmail and Google Apps: - better shortcuts in the web interface - the mobile web interface is actually good - can import email by IMAP - POP links actually work, Gmail's POP links are broken - IMAP is better implemented - Gmail limits IMAP to 15 max connections and each folder ends up being a connection - CardDAV works and has good picture reso…

> Gmail only does "plus" aliasing, but that's obvious and problematic

When using Gmail with Google Apps you can set up wildcarding, I have it setup so I can put anything I like before the at symbol and it all funnels into my inbox, no plus required. I use this typically to set the email address used with a given company to their name @ my domain.

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by msh »

_RPM wrote: post #133

I'm a FastMail user for about a year now. The one thing about the android app is that you get real push notifications. This is a great feature, that you don't get with ANY OTHER mail app for android. The interface of the android app seems to be a web-view, and I don't like it at all. The resolution is low, and it takes a long time to load. Overall, the push notifications is huge for me. I tried using the Gmail app co…

Outlook for android gives you real push. So does the blackberry hub.

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by jimktrains2 »

rfrey wrote: post #65

My business uses Fastmail, and I'm mostly happy with it. The one thing I notice every day though, is the spam detection. I start each day by marking 10-15 messages as spam. That's been the case for three years, and I don't seem to be making headway on training their spam filter. It's a small thing, takes me all of 10 seconds, but I do notice it, every morning.

I have the opposite issue with GMail. I spend the same amount of time removing things from the spam folder.

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by nirvdrum »

amelius wrote: post #119
bad_user wrote: post #76

I'm a FastMail customer. Here's some things I like and why I switched from Gmail and Google Apps: - better shortcuts in the web interface - the mobile web interface is actually good - can import email by IMAP - POP links actually work, Gmail's POP links are broken - IMAP is better implemented - Gmail limits IMAP to 15 max connections and each folder ends up being a connection - CardDAV works and has good picture reso…

How is search compared to Gmail? I would expect Google to implement a better search.

I find myself in a minority on this one, but a big part of why I switched to FastMail is Gmail's search was always slow and typically insufficient for me. E.g., Gmail didn't (doesn't?) do stemming, meaning I needed to memorize exact phrases to find messages. I've had no such problems with FastMail search and it's remarkably quick.

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by _RPM »

msh wrote: post #203
_RPM wrote: post #133

I'm a FastMail user for about a year now. The one thing about the android app is that you get real push notifications. This is a great feature, that you don't get with ANY OTHER mail app for android. The interface of the android app seems to be a web-view, and I don't like it at all. The resolution is low, and it takes a long time to load. Overall, the push notifications is huge for me. I tried using the Gmail app co…

Outlook for android gives you real push. So does the blackberry hub.

Must you be connected to an Exchange service to get real push?

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by eatbitseveryday »

dublinben wrote: post #190
eatbitseveryday wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The lack of support for desktop clients Their servers do not decrypt your email, thus doing so requires support from the client. The browser currently does this on your machine. Do desktop clients support decrypting email? Can we trust these clients won't store your emails in plain-text on your machine? Or that they won't mistakenly leak your information via some other channels? I agree desktop client support is a…

>Do desktop clients support decrypting email? This is the traditional workflow for PGP-encrypted email, and has been for decades. Protonmail chose to be incompatible with this established standard.

> Protonmail chose to be incompatible with this established standard.

They've supported receiving PGP-encrypted emails[1] and are working on IMAP support currently[2]. Would be nice for you to cite sources before making strong claims like "chose to be incompatible". Everything is a feature and needs time to implement.

[1] https://protonmail.com/support/knowledge-base/using-protonma...

[2] https://protonmail.uservoice.com/forums/284483-feedback/sugg...

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by maccard »

StavrosK wrote: post #183
bad_user wrote: post #76

I'm a FastMail customer. Here's some things I like and why I switched from Gmail and Google Apps: - better shortcuts in the web interface - the mobile web interface is actually good - can import email by IMAP - POP links actually work, Gmail's POP links are broken - IMAP is better implemented - Gmail limits IMAP to 15 max connections and each folder ends up being a connection - CardDAV works and has good picture reso…

If you have your own server (of any kind, even a Raspberry Pi), there's no excuse for not running your own CardDAV, at least (you can also run CalDAV), and it works beautifully: https://www.stavros.io/posts/private-contacts-and-calendars-... Radicale even commits every change to a git repo, if you want, so you can go back to your contacts history an arbitrary amount of time just by using `git log`!

I'm interested in keeping my data private, and willing to pay for it, I'm just not interested in maintaining a server, and dealing with 1) keeping it up, and 2) keeping it secure.

I'd just rather pay someone a small monthly/annual fee to do it for me, along with keeping my data private.

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by honkhonkpants »

nirvdrum wrote: post #205
amelius wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is search compared to Gmail? I would expect Google to implement a better search.

I find myself in a minority on this one, but a big part of why I switched to FastMail is Gmail's search was always slow and typically insufficient for me. E.g., Gmail didn't (doesn't?) do stemming, meaning I needed to memorize exact phrases to find messages. I've had no such problems with FastMail search and it's remarkably quick.

Gmail search definitely stems. I just spot checked a few irregular plurals and their singular forms are all found. One other benefit of Gmail search is it also searches Docs and other private data. For some reason the Gmail search is more effective and faster than Google Docs' own search.
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