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Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by rasmusei »

aibara wrote: post #169
rasmusei wrote: post #11

+1 on almost everything you wrote. I also moved from Gmail to Fastmail in almost exactly the same way some months ago. I agree completely to the plusses and minuses you mention. I would like to add one minus though. Any good old smiley like ":)" in emails gets replaced by a yellow smiley face icon. I hate to see yellow smiley faces where someone wrote colon end parenthesis. It's all done client-side though, so noone…

I had a problem with the smileys as well. They don't actually appear by default, but if you view your email in plain text and not HTML (as I do) there they are. I made this for Stylish to fix the issue: https://userstyles.org/styles/106482/fastmail-hide-smileys/

Thanks! Stylish style installed and seems to work. But it's still bewildering why Fastmail does that. Anyway, I must say it's impressive that they make an email service where this is my biggest complaint :)

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by discreditable »

robbiemitchell wrote: post #143
devopsproject wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/Apps/l-TmEzzF...

I read that forum rant and the linked content, and there is still no evidence that Gmail is deleting emails immediately by default. I read two possible causes: - Content Compliance setting (managed by admin) that can prevent emails from reaching inbox - Some other service, such as Exchange, which can somehow interfere with Gmail? Specifically, the article mentions a "quarantine" folder that is not part of Gmail. Or a…

The quarantine folder you mention is part of the content compliance settings. Mail that matches content compliance rules goes into a quarantine that only admins can access.

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by StavrosK »

bad_user wrote: post #76

I'm a FastMail customer. Here's some things I like and why I switched from Gmail and Google Apps: - better shortcuts in the web interface - the mobile web interface is actually good - can import email by IMAP - POP links actually work, Gmail's POP links are broken - IMAP is better implemented - Gmail limits IMAP to 15 max connections and each folder ends up being a connection - CardDAV works and has good picture reso…

If you have your own server (of any kind, even a Raspberry Pi), there's no excuse for not running your own CardDAV, at least (you can also run CalDAV), and it works beautifully:

https://www.stavros.io/posts/private-contacts-and-calendars-...

Radicale even commits every change to a git repo, if you want, so you can go back to your contacts history an arbitrary amount of time just by using `git log`!

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by scholia »

tdkl wrote: post #176
scholia wrote: post #168

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Windows mobile OS trying to compete with iOS and Android - which they seem to have given up on. Microsoft's strategy is to be cross-platform, which is why it has dozens of apps on iOS and Android, and supports Linux on Azure. Microsoft's Windows strategy is to be cross-platform, with Windows 10 for "internet of things", phones, tablets, games consoles, all types of PC and servers. Windows phones didn't sell well en…

> Microsoft's strategy is to be cross-platform Now, when Windows Mobile turned out to be a failure. But not couple years ago and definitely not when they were buying Nokia.

Microsoft launched Office apps for iOS in 2014. So when did they start writing them?

UPDATE Note: Office 365 already supported Macs, and alternative browsers.

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by bad_user »

curt15 wrote: post #165
bad_user wrote: post #76

I'm a FastMail customer. Here's some things I like and why I switched from Gmail and Google Apps: - better shortcuts in the web interface - the mobile web interface is actually good - can import email by IMAP - POP links actually work, Gmail's POP links are broken - IMAP is better implemented - Gmail limits IMAP to 15 max connections and each folder ends up being a connection - CardDAV works and has good picture reso…

>Part of this decision was also a switch from Google Drive to Dropbox: Dropbox supports Linux, Google Drive does not. Which to me has always been kind of weird because Google uses Linux internally for most of their workstations.

Well, for me that's not weird, it's just a big fuck you, totally consistent with what other companies are doing. Multi-platform these days means Windows + OS X + Android + iOS. And the market I'm in is too small for them to bother, so might as well sit on that pile of cash and not want my business.

The weird part is that Linux is mostly about the server, being a really good home server for many people. And setting up a home server that synchronizes your files, for cheap with a Raspberry Pi and an external hard-drive, is a no-brainer. It's almost like they don't want people to do that.

But anyway, I'm voting with my wallet as they say. Currently paying €13.98/month for Dropbox, because I included the 1-year versioning add-on.

I also just gave up on 1Password for the same reason, even though I was happy with it on my Mac, switched to KeeWeb + Keepass2Android + MiniKeePass. In some ways it's even better - I now have a full history of all my edits and it can never switch on me or die.

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by superuser2 »

curt15 wrote: post #165
bad_user wrote: post #76

I'm a FastMail customer. Here's some things I like and why I switched from Gmail and Google Apps: - better shortcuts in the web interface - the mobile web interface is actually good - can import email by IMAP - POP links actually work, Gmail's POP links are broken - IMAP is better implemented - Gmail limits IMAP to 15 max connections and each folder ends up being a connection - CardDAV works and has good picture reso…

>Part of this decision was also a switch from Google Drive to Dropbox: Dropbox supports Linux, Google Drive does not. Which to me has always been kind of weird because Google uses Linux internally for most of their workstations.

They are probably dogfooding the office suite that works fine in Chrome on Linux, and anything that's not a Doc/Sheet/presentation is source code under version control. I doubt they felt a pressing need for a desktop app supporting arbitrary kinds of files.

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by jmnicolas »

0xmohit wrote: post #62

Has anybody used HushMail [0] or ProtonMail [1]? How does it stand against both free services like GMail/Yahoo or paid ones like FastMail? [0] https://www.hushmail.com/ [1] https://protonmail.com/

I'm a paid Hushmail customer since 2010 I think.

Their web interface is sub-par and sometimes it's pretty slow to connect.

I was thinking to change for Fastmail but they're a bit more expensive and the mails are stored in the US I think (I'm French).

I'll probably investigate this in December when my hush subscription is due.

Re: Moving 12 years of email from GMail to FastMail

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Post by dublinben »

eatbitseveryday wrote: post #172
stryan wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have an account but don't really use it. The lack of support for desktop clients, while understandable, kills it for me. Also, for the record, they're now the maintainers of OpenPGPjs not OpenPGP [0]. [0]: https://protonmail.com/blog/openpgpjs-email-encryption/

> The lack of support for desktop clients Their servers do not decrypt your email, thus doing so requires support from the client. The browser currently does this on your machine. Do desktop clients support decrypting email? Can we trust these clients won't store your emails in plain-text on your machine? Or that they won't mistakenly leak your information via some other channels? I agree desktop client support is a…

>Do desktop clients support decrypting email?

This is the traditional workflow for PGP-encrypted email, and has been for decades. Protonmail chose to be incompatible with this established standard.

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