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Re: The Linux kernel hidden inside Windows 10

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Post by microtonal »

rwmj wrote: post #119
microtonal wrote: post #109

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- solved by any launcher - solved by any launcher Then you have never used Windows Phone. None of the Android launchers provides the equivalent of WP tiles with the same amount of integration. There is no API that launchers could use to pull out the same amount/types of information. - gmaps handles this automatically Nonsense. It does some prefetching, but if you are in another country (no data) and you go slightly o…

You should probably look at OSM (eg. OSMAnd, but there are others). I just download the whole country map before I visit somewhere.

I use OSM on my Garmin GPS for hiking/cycling, especially when Garmin's maps for a particular country are overly expensive.

http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl

Re: The Linux kernel hidden inside Windows 10

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Post by acqq »

int_19h wrote: post #80
Amezarak wrote: post #29

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Which is really unfortunate. I can't blame Microsoft for it, but the app-gap between WP/WinMo 10 and Android is getting untenable for me. I'm thinking about switching back, not because I think Android is better (I don't think it is at all), but simply because I'm starting to feel left out when all my family and friends are using, e.g., SnapChat to keep in touch and I...can't. It particularly riles me up that there we…

It feels to me that, with the kernel emulation in place, a third party can now step in to provide reasonable Android emulation on top of that. I mean, unless Android uses kernels with some custom syscalls, it should be usable, right? Now it's a question of recreating the userspace on top of that. I would imagine that many pieces would just fall in naturally, while others (most things to do with UI) would probably req…

But do the potential users on the PC really need anything more than

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlueStacks

or

http://www.androidauthority.com/best-android-emulators-for-p...

Re: The Linux kernel hidden inside Windows 10

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Post by fsloth »

kartickv wrote: post #113
satysin wrote: post #27

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Indeed, and the rumours are that Project Astoria worked too well which scared Microsoft. If Android apps "just worked" on Windows then why would developers bother using their new Universal Windows Platform.

Besides, Astoria will lead to a second-rate UX for Windows Phone (WP) as Android apps on WP are coded as per Android UX guidelines, not WP UX guidelines. If Microsoft is building a framework, I'd expect it to provide a great UX for their users. If a compatibility layer is required, it would be better for MS users to have it in the reverse direction, to let WP apps run on Android, and use that to try to convince devs…

I don't think average user cares as much about uniform UX experience as they would from just being able to use the app. Example: Pokemon GO uses totally it's own UX on iOS and Android and that does not seem to harm it's popularity.

I would claim 'nice ux' is something that would not drive market adoption nearly as much as other factors (value, usability in general, etc).

Re: The Linux kernel hidden inside Windows 10

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Post by fsloth »

microtonal wrote: post #109
corndoge wrote: post #104

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- solved by any launcher - solved by any launcher - cannot comment - gmaps handles this automatically - cannot comment - baked into android since L - gdrive Nearly usability and UI struggles are easily solved with a custom launcher.

- solved by any launcher - solved by any launcher Then you have never used Windows Phone. None of the Android launchers provides the equivalent of WP tiles with the same amount of integration. There is no API that launchers could use to pull out the same amount/types of information. - gmaps handles this automatically Nonsense. It does some prefetching, but if you are in another country (no data) and you go slightly o…

"There is no API that launchers could use to pull out the same amount/types of information."

What's missing in Android compared to WP in this regard? I have widgets on my Android homescreen that has buttons to activate app functionality (e.g. Audible's 'play' button) and that dynamically update their content. Is there some richer interactor or viewing scheme wp supports?

Re: The Linux kernel hidden inside Windows 10

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Post by fsloth »

rwmj wrote: post #119
microtonal wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

- solved by any launcher - solved by any launcher Then you have never used Windows Phone. None of the Android launchers provides the equivalent of WP tiles with the same amount of integration. There is no API that launchers could use to pull out the same amount/types of information. - gmaps handles this automatically Nonsense. It does some prefetching, but if you are in another country (no data) and you go slightly o…

You should probably look at OSM (eg. OSMAnd, but there are others). I just download the whole country map before I visit somewhere.

HERE maps for android is pretty nice - ar least for traveling in europe there is a very good ui for downloading regional maps and it performs offline routing pretty well.

Re: The Linux kernel hidden inside Windows 10

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Post by bitJericho »

na85 wrote: post #111
satysin wrote: post #41

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I don't believe it would drive adoption at all. Microsoft know Windows Phone today is dead. However they still have the desktop and with UWP they hope to bridge the development gap between mobile/tablet/desktop/laptop. Had they shipped Astoria in Windows 10 to allow Android apps to "just work" it would have destroyed their UWP strategy. So they might get a few more Windows Phone users but they would have lost control…

Isn't WP already dead? I've never met a single person using one.

I use it. I would rate it equally as high as the iPhone minus all the apps and apple craziness. And much better than android which I don't care for. I plan on getting the flagship 950xl Lumia when this 930 im on now breaks, if it ever does.

Re: The Linux kernel hidden inside Windows 10

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Post by qubex »

na85 wrote: post #111
satysin wrote: post #41

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I don't believe it would drive adoption at all. Microsoft know Windows Phone today is dead. However they still have the desktop and with UWP they hope to bridge the development gap between mobile/tablet/desktop/laptop. Had they shipped Astoria in Windows 10 to allow Android apps to "just work" it would have destroyed their UWP strategy. So they might get a few more Windows Phone users but they would have lost control…

Isn't WP already dead? I've never met a single person using one.

I have a Lumina 950 as a “second phone” for use with a local SIM when I travel, and honestly I love it.

Re: The Linux kernel hidden inside Windows 10

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Post by jpttsn »

wangchow wrote: post #90
twblalock wrote: post #46

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Missing "fluff" is not the problem. The problem is this: When the next killer app comes out, whatever it is, you may want to use it -- but it is very unlikely to be available on Windows Phone.

However, want and need are very different. I may desire an app, but not having it can make me better off. For instance, look here at the selfie deaths: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_selfie-related_injurie... This may seem ridiculous but that's what these apps are doing to people. :)

Interesting attitude. People kill themselves with toasters too. Would that dissuade you from using one?

Re: The Linux kernel hidden inside Windows 10

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Post by beagle3 »

JustSomeNobody wrote: post #116
eddieh wrote: post #100

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> people talk about Visual Studio being a great IDE I think this is just something people regurgitate often and believe without evidence. I've used the IDE and it is terrible – probably one of the worst. Last I checked it couldn't open multiple windows for certain file types. Its interface looks like a web IDE. It hangs while it scans your project to provide IntelliSense, which IntellieSense itself is crazy annoying.…

It used to be good. Then WPF happened.

Yes, I also think VC6 was the best IDE. But WPF happened in VS2003, so most people who describe VS as the best IDE ever actually refer to a WPF version.
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