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Re: iPad-only is the new desktop Linux

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Post by chatmasta »

addicted wrote: post #20
chmod775 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, but imho a cheap Dell would be more comfortable to work on than some weird ipad/bluetooth keyboard/whatnot combo. And decent only starts on the far other side of that spectrum.

I think it would be interesting to see the amount of productivity people lose using their iPads. In my experience my iPad means I am using my laptop a lot less, but it's taking me more time to do the same things I did on the laptop on my iPad.

There may be value in using an iPad as a dev machine simply because it provides a separate environment for only doing dev work. Given that habit (and thereby procrastination) depends greatly on environment, it's possible that using an iPad strictly as a dev machine could increase productivity by subconsciously associating the iPad environment with efficiency. That is, if you're on your iPad, you know you shouldn't be messing around, and you use it only for work. Whereas if you're on your laptop you might be tempted to lapse into time sinks that you already associate with your laptop.

Re: iPad-only is the new desktop Linux

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Post by Q4Dyslexia »

Ive been on the fence about this, with my last two years of schooling coming up, i really don't want to carry any books, most of which I'm able to find online. I also have to commute across the bay which takes 90min, can't leave shit in my car because there is no locked trunk (if i don't take BART)

This 2009 15in literally is the only 15in macbook no to have video card issues released in the last 10 years? But the downside is that its heavy.

Okay so that leaves 2-3 options realistically. Retina Macbook nice screen, light weight, downside the keyboard is really small, fingers become cramped, computation power might become an issue, although a deeper dive into the benchmarking might give insight into that.

15in Retina, Screen+ , Speed+, Power+, Cost(---): seriously these 15in computers are baller, but i can buy another car for the price of this computer.....

iPad Pro + Virtual OS X host - get to have something light weight, easy to do things with (read,code,surf,roll blunts), downside can't always be online unless getting cellular, VNC might be destroying data caps, memory also becomes problematic, as well as what the author stated which was broken workflows with documents....

Anyone have input to this? What works for y'all?

Re: iPad-only is the new desktop Linux

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Post by Q4Dyslexia »

Q4Dyslexia wrote: post #52

Ive been on the fence about this, with my last two years of schooling coming up, i really don't want to carry any books, most of which I'm able to find online. I also have to commute across the bay which takes 90min, can't leave shit in my car because there is no locked trunk (if i don't take BART) This 2009 15in literally is the only 15in macbook no to have video card issues released in the last 10 years? But the do…

its never going to happen, but OS X on iPadPro would be the solution to all of this >.>

Re: iPad-only is the new desktop Linux

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Post by dogma1138 »

teach wrote: post #22
niftich wrote: post #12

This seems to be making the point that using an iPad is a 'badge of pride' because it's 'challenging'; trying to make the point that Linux is also difficult to use. Except, it's not the same type of challenge at all. Linux usability can actually be pretty good, but it's dependent on familiarity, the desktop environment, the distro, the choice of installed applications; everything is customizable, and making most of t…

I started using Linux on the desktop in 2001 and have only used other OSes casually since then. Linux is incredibly productive for me and I'm pretty worthless on other operating systems. And I'm old enough that I'm no longer willing to put in the time to learn a new one. Ubuntu does what I want; I don't have to configure things and It Just Works 99% of the time. Plus it's free, so there's no financial incentive to us…

Can I ask you a honest question? How much time do you spend on ISM that the OS actually matters to you that much? I've heard a lot of people saying I'm more productive on X, but in every case I never had real examples of OS specific reasons why they were more productive as in every case it boiled down to the Application ecosystem they end up using.

Say you are a Java (it's easy, common, and cross platform) developer this means you need your Eclipse/Netbeans IDE, a JVM and or some Java based web server. So you have your IDE+JVM on the OS, and development/deployment & test environment on a virtual machine, does it really matter to you if you are running Linux, Windows or OSX in this case? All you use and see is Eclipse, a text editor, Virtual Box and a web browser.

Re: iPad-only is the new desktop Linux

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Post by benbristow »

I really don't see the hype around the iPad Pro. Doesn't it make sense to get something like the Surface instead which is a full Intel machine in the same form-factor running the desktop version of Windows 10; rather than limiting yourself to Apple's walled garden?

Re: iPad-only is the new desktop Linux

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Post by youngtaff »

addicted wrote: post #20
chmod775 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, but imho a cheap Dell would be more comfortable to work on than some weird ipad/bluetooth keyboard/whatnot combo. And decent only starts on the far other side of that spectrum.

I think it would be interesting to see the amount of productivity people lose using their iPads. In my experience my iPad means I am using my laptop a lot less, but it's taking me more time to do the same things I did on the laptop on my iPad.

I tried doing some serious writing on an iPad (with external keyboard) a few years back.

The number of times I needed to touch the screen or switch apps made it a pretty inefficient experience.

If I wanted a 'cheap' device to write on again I'd probably try a Chromebook

Re: iPad-only is the new desktop Linux

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Post by meekins »

dogma1138 wrote: post #55
teach wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I started using Linux on the desktop in 2001 and have only used other OSes casually since then. Linux is incredibly productive for me and I'm pretty worthless on other operating systems. And I'm old enough that I'm no longer willing to put in the time to learn a new one. Ubuntu does what I want; I don't have to configure things and It Just Works 99% of the time. Plus it's free, so there's no financial incentive to us…

Can I ask you a honest question? How much time do you spend on ISM that the OS actually matters to you that much? I've heard a lot of people saying I'm more productive on X, but in every case I never had real examples of OS specific reasons why they were more productive as in every case it boiled down to the Application ecosystem they end up using. Say you are a Java (it's easy, common, and cross platform) developer…

Yes, when spending most of the day in front of a cross-platform IDE the OS has very little effect. But the OS has an effect on configuration side of things. Due to working in parallel with different projects and systems I need to have multiple versions of JDK available, a set of multiple build tools in different versions and multiple application servers. I have used Windows, OSX and Linux for development and Linux has been the easiest environment to set up and maintain and Linux VMs also solve the multiple app servers-problem. I don't have that much experience with OSX (only got my MacBook Pro a couple of months ago) and so far it feels quite alien. While there's the familiar power of Unix lurking in the back the GUI side feels very cumbersome and something I feel I have very little control on. Is that the Apple usability magic that people usually talk about?
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