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Re: iPad-only is the new desktop Linux

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This seems to be making the point that using an iPad is a 'badge of pride' because it's 'challenging'; trying to make the point that Linux is also difficult to use. Except, it's not the same type of challenge at all. Linux usability can actually be pretty good, but it's dependent on familiarity, the desktop environment, the distro, the choice of installed applications; everything is customizable, and making most of t…

I started using Linux on the desktop in 2001 and have only used other OSes casually since then.

Linux is incredibly productive for me and I'm pretty worthless on other operating systems. And I'm old enough that I'm no longer willing to put in the time to learn a new one.

Ubuntu does what I want; I don't have to configure things and It Just Works 99% of the time. Plus it's free, so there's no financial incentive to use something else.

Re: iPad-only is the new desktop Linux

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Jailbroken iPad has all the "Linux" essentials you might need. Combined with a Bluetooth keyboard and SSH to a remote server, you've got a decent dev machine.

Sorry, but imho a cheap Dell would be more comfortable to work on than some weird ipad/bluetooth keyboard/whatnot combo. And decent only starts on the far other side of that spectrum.

One is talking about software and the other is talking about hardware form factor.

If the form factor is uncomfortable, sometimes you can't program around a solution.

Re: iPad-only is the new desktop Linux

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Seems like a good scenario for a Chromebook. You can buy two or more for the price of one iPad. And install Linux on it if you want.

I think this would provide another good alternative

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/andromium/the-superbook...

Who knows how well it would work in practice though

Re: iPad-only is the new desktop Linux

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post #12

This seems to be making the point that using an iPad is a 'badge of pride' because it's 'challenging'; trying to make the point that Linux is also difficult to use. Except, it's not the same type of challenge at all. Linux usability can actually be pretty good, but it's dependent on familiarity, the desktop environment, the distro, the choice of installed applications; everything is customizable, and making most of t…

Yes, it's rather silly. Desktop Linux is like having a machine shop. It's a steep learning curve, but you can do amazing things. Advanced tasks on the iPad is like a dancing bear: it's impressive that it can even be done, but the actual dancing sucks.

Re: iPad-only is the new desktop Linux

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I don't get this idea that desktop Linux is challenging, not at all. I've been using a Linux box as my primary desktop since 1999, and as my sole desktop since 2000. It's not challenging, it just works.

I won't say that there are never challenges, but they are rare and — unlike Windows and macOS — if I search a little I'll find an answer and am able to bend the OS to my will.

Re: iPad-only is the new desktop Linux

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From the creators of "PC is dead, long live IOS"

Remind me again the argument for using the ipad instead of a... say mac air... or the macbook? 1 pound? 2?

Sure there are some people for which this is critical... like the guy who is 40 pounds overweight but buys a new 10000$ new road bike because it's 1 pound lighter...

Re: iPad-only is the new desktop Linux

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post #12

This seems to be making the point that using an iPad is a 'badge of pride' because it's 'challenging'; trying to make the point that Linux is also difficult to use. Except, it's not the same type of challenge at all. Linux usability can actually be pretty good, but it's dependent on familiarity, the desktop environment, the distro, the choice of installed applications; everything is customizable, and making most of t…

Except that to those of us who cut our teeth on DOS & Windows, and grew to the point that going away from the GUI was either the mark of doing something the hard way or because of a specific failure, *nix presents a vastly different working paradigm.

Not to mention compatibility issues and other general issues.

Re: iPad-only is the new desktop Linux

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post #25
post #12

This seems to be making the point that using an iPad is a 'badge of pride' because it's 'challenging'; trying to make the point that Linux is also difficult to use. Except, it's not the same type of challenge at all. Linux usability can actually be pretty good, but it's dependent on familiarity, the desktop environment, the distro, the choice of installed applications; everything is customizable, and making most of t…

Yes, it's rather silly. Desktop Linux is like having a machine shop. It's a steep learning curve, but you can do amazing things. Advanced tasks on the iPad is like a dancing bear: it's impressive that it can even be done, but the actual dancing sucks.

I love the dancing bear analogy, but I'd argue that Linux on the desktop isn't a difficult learning curve. Not in 2016, anyway.

The Linux desktop is different than Windows 10 or the MacOS, but it isn't harder, IMO.

Re: iPad-only is the new desktop Linux

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Windows didn't get the top position in desktop usage because it had such a good UI. Neither does the iPad really work well as a desktop replacement.

It's all about laziness. If (for whatever reasons) I use this device for most of my tasks for most of the day, I have an incentive to use it for all of my tasks.

This might lead to a "challenge" but at least I don't have to start up the laptop with Windows or boot into Windows to get my tasks done. And sometimes, you just decide that this "important" task wasn't that important after all and just work around it.

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