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You have to choose a system. If we don't want naturally-occurring compounds patented, but we want them researched for potential drug use, we need more public funding. Otherwise, we have to offer researchers and drug manufacturers an incentive to take risks with exploring these compounds. Barring lugdunin from being patented while providing no public funding would incentivise this group to withhold publication until t…
At least if they'd kept their findings secret, researchers could independently be researching the same thing. Now independent researchers won't want to touch lugdunin because they'll need to license the patent, however they won't know whether licensing the patent is worthwhile until they do their research. This will prevent further research, not encourage it.
Nasal Bacteria Pump Out a Potential New Antibiotic That Kills MRSA
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#32An interesting point would be that if S. aureus becomes resistant to lugdunin (a matter of a few years maybe), S. lugdunensis might evolve naturally to find a new antibiotic. So a similar study in a few years might lead to a new antibiotic molecule targetting the mutated S. aureus. Is there hope for this or is it nonsense?
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#33Awesome research. But... > The researchers then checked snot from hospitalized patients. Of 187 samples, all but one were colonized by either S. aureus or S. lugdunensis > S. lugdunensis, was killing S. aureus. Its weapon of choice? A small compound dubbed lugdunin > The German researchers who performed the study have filed a patent for lugdunin Are we really allowing people to patent naturally occurring biological c…
You have to choose a system. If we don't want naturally-occurring compounds patented, but we want them researched for potential drug use, we need more public funding. Otherwise, we have to offer researchers and drug manufacturers an incentive to take risks with exploring these compounds. Barring lugdunin from being patented while providing no public funding would incentivise this group to withhold publication until t…
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#34Wont using this be long term harmful to our nasal health, as bacteria acquire immunity?
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
You have to choose a system. If we don't want naturally-occurring compounds patented, but we want them researched for potential drug use, we need more public funding. Otherwise, we have to offer researchers and drug manufacturers an incentive to take risks with exploring these compounds. Barring lugdunin from being patented while providing no public funding would incentivise this group to withhold publication until t…
These are German researchers at a German university. Aren't they already publicly funded? (honest question, I don't know).
This is the sort of thing that requires and international treaty.
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#36Re: Nasal Bacteria Pump Out a Potential New Antibiotic That Kills MRSA
#37Now we need a globally agreed system of anti-biotic triage - you can have anti-biotics, but only administered in hospital, signed off by two doctors and with these life threatening conditions. Treat them with care this time round
And then we get to complain about the excess bureaucracy in healthcare!
Re: Nasal Bacteria Pump Out a Potential New Antibiotic That Kills MRSA
#38Now we need a globally agreed system of anti-biotic triage - you can have anti-biotics, but only administered in hospital, signed off by two doctors and with these life threatening conditions. Treat them with care this time round
It's possible to find middle ground, and I think comprehensive IT systems for all doctors with real-time forbidden drugs lists and epidemia tracking would make this much easier.
It's even possible to divide hospitals into "different drug is forbidden here", and when someone has MRSA - put him in a hospital where the drugs that doesn't work on him - are banned anyway. And use "last ditch" drugs only in these hospitals.
And of course the main thing is to stop abusing antibiotics for agriculture.
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#39Partly relevant: a few months ago they discovered bacteria in beards that also kill MRSA: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/beards-good-for-he...
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#40Awesome research. But... > The researchers then checked snot from hospitalized patients. Of 187 samples, all but one were colonized by either S. aureus or S. lugdunensis > S. lugdunensis, was killing S. aureus. Its weapon of choice? A small compound dubbed lugdunin > The German researchers who performed the study have filed a patent for lugdunin Are we really allowing people to patent naturally occurring biological c…
They'll probably make some money out of it, to fund more research, but hopefully any deal with pharmaceutical companies should have some pricing clause to make this widely affordable to public health services.