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Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

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post #20

I think much of Reddit's problems with its userbase boil down to an early failure to manage expectations. It's pretty clear that the Reddit corporation doesn't want Reddit to be an anything-goes, absolute free speech zone with no moderation or anti-harassment policies -- but that's what the site actually was for many years. Now, when the company cracks down, users think their freedoms are being curtailed. The mistake…

I think what happens when we have truly anonymous free speech, on places such as Reddit, Twitter, and 4Chan, shows that we are nowhere as civilized as we like to think we are.

YouTube comments are what really does it for me.

Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

#62

Reddit, from a business perspective, baffles me. During the Yishan Wong/Ellen Pao era, we had Reddit-Made and Reddit TV, both of which bombed especially. Under Alexis Ohanian, we had Upvoted and Formative which as the article notes were killed silently. Reddit released a native app and an image host years too late. (I just checked the data and it is not killing Imgur: Reddit image usage was 18% in the top image subre…

It's not. Reddit could easily sell targeted ads based on subreddits (e.g. inking a deal with Uniqlo to advertise on /r/malefashionadvice or /r/femalefashionadvice). It chooses to pursue other monetization means to preserve the Reddit experience. We'll see if it's able to stumble onto another sustainable business model.

I could see ads if used sparingly and subtly. I applaud their effort to find alternate ways to finance.

Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

#63
Wow. What a hit piece. I bet their anonymous source happens to be the ex VP of Product that was fired by Pao, and is now building a 'safer' Reddit. Conflict much? In their sources quote, it's evident the source knows a lot of the inner workings of the leadership, is a man, and doesn't work there anymore. Well, that leaves only the ex VP, seeing as though Pao was a woman.

So they took all of Dan's words as truth? The guy with the competing Reddit? Come on Techcrunch. That's pretty bad.

Now, for the facts:

1. None of these people left voluntarily. They were let go. So they need to stop with the 'people are leaving in droves' nonsense. Reddit has has almost multiplied in employee count in the last year, and has moved to a new office, much larger office building.

2. All of these people, except for Nicole were part of an experimental product that was cancelled. If this was Google or Facebook, you wouldn't even know. It happens every day. But because you got a juicy tip from an ex-employee building a shitty competitor, you run with it. Because, hell, it's Reddit, and you just might hit the frontpage!

3. Shit like this, "The plans to overhaul Reddit’s reputation as a hotbed for harassment and to remake the company as a multi-media publisher have yet to prove successful — at it seems that the departures of senior employees are impacting Reddit’s product and performance." -- WTF does that mean? They tried Upvoted, it didn't work, and they're folding it back into Reddit.com and letting go of people that they don't need for the next iteration. That's business. It has nothing to do with color of skin or your genitals.

4. Numbers always dip in the summers. Especially for Reddit. The kids are off for the summer. It would make sense that they peaked right before summer. According to Alexa, Reddit is the 9th largest site in the US, and up 9 spots this month on the Global list to #27. So it seems they are definitely growing.

Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

#64
post #31

Since Alexis and Huffman returned I've seen more happen with the brand than in the several years preceding. I don't know who made their mobile app but it is damn good. I resisted at first but am now using it as my primary means for consuming content on Reddit.

They bought it.

This version was actually built from scratch.

Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

#65
post #46

Reddit isn't Internet infrastructure. It is a startup. The plan from day one was to make a kinder, gentler imageboard, get acquired, and make the founders rich.

Uh, I think that was the Like Google or FB, Reddit could just gradually become unbelievably massive. It already is approaching that level of name recognition. Monetization should be subtle, with an appropriate long-term view.

Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

#67
post #34
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think what happens when we have truly anonymous free speech, on places such as Reddit, Twitter, and 4Chan, shows that we are nowhere as civilized as we like to think we are.

Are we more civilized when there is no anonymous free speech, and people are abusive only in semi-private situations?

I think so. Actions toward others have a much larger societal impact than privately held beliefs.

For example, if someone has racist beliefs which do not affect his actions in any way, his effect on other people in society would be exactly the same as it would be if he did not have racist beliefs. In other words, beliefs that are not acted on or expressed have no effect on society.

There may be some social benefit to knowing who the racists are. But if they are anonymous, that benefit is probably lost. Their speech is protected by the first amendment either way, but Reddit is not required to enforce the constitution, so they can shut down the accounts if they want to.

Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

#68

I think much of Reddit's problems with its userbase boil down to an early failure to manage expectations. It's pretty clear that the Reddit corporation doesn't want Reddit to be an anything-goes, absolute free speech zone with no moderation or anti-harassment policies -- but that's what the site actually was for many years. Now, when the company cracks down, users think their freedoms are being curtailed. The mistake…

> If there is a lesson in this, it is that online communities which plan to implement anti-harassment policies ought to do so from the beginning, and develop the expectation among the users that such policies exist, and will continue to exist. A few relatively popular programming languages have begun publishing official community code of conduct documents[1][2]. While initially I thought it was a bit overreaching, I…

It's a good way to cover your ass if you need to kick people out of the community later. They can't credibly accuse you of making up ad-hoc rules if your code of conduct has existed the entire time.

Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

#69
post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I just checked the data and it is not killing Imgur: Reddit image usage was 18% in the top image subreddits at beginning of June, today it is 25% that seems like a pretty significant rate-of-uptake to me - why would you say it's not killing imgur?

Here's the plot of the Imgur and Reddit pics market share on /r/pics and /r/gifs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cgoFF6njlyv1W0DQ3IF5... There is growth in Reddit Pics and decline in Imgur, but it'll be a few months before the lines intersect. A cry from the Imgur killer everyone expected.

Not sure how this proves your point. Reddit is about to overtake Imgur...

Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

#70

Reddit, from a business perspective, baffles me. During the Yishan Wong/Ellen Pao era, we had Reddit-Made and Reddit TV, both of which bombed especially. Under Alexis Ohanian, we had Upvoted and Formative which as the article notes were killed silently. Reddit released a native app and an image host years too late. (I just checked the data and it is not killing Imgur: Reddit image usage was 18% in the top image subre…

It's not. Reddit could easily sell targeted ads based on subreddits (e.g. inking a deal with Uniqlo to advertise on /r/malefashionadvice or /r/femalefashionadvice). It chooses to pursue other monetization means to preserve the Reddit experience. We'll see if it's able to stumble onto another sustainable business model.

They do this. http://reddit.com/advertise
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