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Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

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Post by jfoutz »

existencebox wrote: post #19
jfoutz wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, i can see that. Finish a big project and have a beer with your team. I have a hard time seeing that as a daily or even weekly thing.

I'd like to give a counter-perspective, since those who drink at work are often grouped as "brogrammers" when I don't feel like the term encapsulates the environment I'm seeking at all; I have a group of mixed engineer/PM peers accumulated from multiple past jobs who perhaps once a month after work on a friday go to a bar for happy hour and just shoot the shit about work. We have non-drinkers there (we'd glady have m…

> [we...] go to a bar for happy hour and just shoot the shit about work.

Yeah, that makes perfect sense, i do that myself. Absolutely agree with the 4 on Friday point as well. I like drinking.

It's just the at work part that makes me nervous. I see the utility in not having to move to a different location, and how that is more inclusive to everyone. I think it takes a very light touch. Because it's at work people might feel more obligated to participate - even if they don't claim any feelings of obligation. Because people are drinking, they might be a little less tactful than normal. These two can compound in ways that aren't great for everyone.

You and your team sound like smart responsible adults. And i'm sure organizations that approach it with your level of delicacy will do great.

Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

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Post by favorited »

beefsack wrote: post #23
twblalock wrote: post #6

I think much of Reddit's problems with its userbase boil down to an early failure to manage expectations. It's pretty clear that the Reddit corporation doesn't want Reddit to be an anything-goes, absolute free speech zone with no moderation or anti-harassment policies -- but that's what the site actually was for many years. Now, when the company cracks down, users think their freedoms are being curtailed. The mistake…

> If there is a lesson in this, it is that online communities which plan to implement anti-harassment policies ought to do so from the beginning, and develop the expectation among the users that such policies exist, and will continue to exist. A few relatively popular programming languages have begun publishing official community code of conduct documents[1][2]. While initially I thought it was a bit overreaching, I…

To add to the list, Swift[1] had a code of conduct as soon as it was open-sourced. Mono even adopted one the same day[2] because they thought it was a good idea.

The LLVM Project is in the final stages of adopting one[3] (after much discussion) as well. This will (once adopted) apply to the LLVM backend, the Clang (C, C++, & ObjC) front-end, libc++, the LLDB debugger, etc.

[1] https://swift.org/community/#code-of-conduct [2] https://twitter.com/migueldeicaza/status/672590341757927426 [3] http://lists.llvm.org/pipermail/llvm-dev/2016-June/101807.ht...

Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

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Post by mathattack »

jfoutz wrote: post #10
matwood wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We have beer in the fridge and a keg at work. Sometimes it's nice to have a beer at the end of the day, but after a working all day I usually just want to go home.

Yeah, i can see that. Finish a big project and have a beer with your team. I have a hard time seeing that as a daily or even weekly thing.

I worked at a software company that had Whiskey afternoons around 4pm on Thursday. It was good for getting people across departments to talk to each other, and helped bring out some introverts. I wondered if it had negative gender connotations, as guys were much more likely that women to partake.

Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

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Post by [deleted] »

Fej wrote: post #30
twblalock wrote: post #6

I think much of Reddit's problems with its userbase boil down to an early failure to manage expectations. It's pretty clear that the Reddit corporation doesn't want Reddit to be an anything-goes, absolute free speech zone with no moderation or anti-harassment policies -- but that's what the site actually was for many years. Now, when the company cracks down, users think their freedoms are being curtailed. The mistake…

It's not just that the site was that way, a free-speech zone, for many years. It was their official policy. They were quite pretentious about it as well, leading the reddit community to believe that this would be the permanent policy. To be honest, that is still mostly how it is; the admins only ban a subreddit when it generates a critical mass of bad press. They don't want to drive away their users. They know how Di…

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Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

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Post by RockyMcNuts »

anjc wrote: post #26

It's bizarre that a company seems to be struggling to administer diversity of staff, without being certain of its own medium-term success. There's no point in having your quota of "people of colour", as the article puts it, if the business model is unsustainable and leads to people being fired anyway. Why not focus on creating a successful company first, and then worry about things that carry an administrative and ma…

It goes to what kind of company and site you want to have. If all you have is 20-something tech bros then that's the kind of company and site you will have.

If you want to appeal beyond that, you may want to broaden your culture.

Sometimes the founding cultural DNA is too strong, or attempts to change the culture fall short for a variety of reasons.

Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

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Post by minimaxir »

jsprogrammer wrote: post #35
minimaxir wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That 10% pledge died when "Reddit Coin" died. (And it likely violated SEC rules anyways)

Do you know where I can find the announcement of the death of the pledge and analysis of how it likely violated SEC rules? I believe Y Combinator was the force behind the pledge, why would they push for and publicly announce something that they couldn't do?

There is no announcement of the death, but the project was under Wong and the blockchain engineer with him, so issue is moot.

You are correct Y Combinator is behind the pledge (http://www.recode.net/2014/9/30/11631424/reddit-raises-50m-p...), but it was only a plan. Plans fail.

Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

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Post by RhodesianHunter »

bane wrote: post #39

Why the hell is Reddit trying to make their own content when the entire point of the site is for the users to create the content? Don't make a Reddit podcast, make Reddit a podcast hosting network. Don't make a Reddit video show, make Reddit a video hosting site. Don't make a Reddit magazine, make Reddit a source for anybody to publish their own magazines. Why does Reddit have writers and editors and creative directo…

Or just provide better targeted advertising... On Facebook you can advertise to people based on demographics, interests, behavior, etc.

On Reddit you can't even place an add on a specific subreddit if it's not one of the big ones.

Re: Reddit is still in turmoil

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Post by nfd »

jeiting wrote: post #31

Since Alexis and Huffman returned I've seen more happen with the brand than in the several years preceding. I don't know who made their mobile app but it is damn good. I resisted at first but am now using it as my primary means for consuming content on Reddit.

They bought the mobile app family--which was in pretty good shape at the time, no less!--from a third party dev; and then basically abandoned it for several years. They just started actually publishing versions and patches a few months ago.
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