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Mark Zuckerberg on the next 10 years of Facebook

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg on the next 10 years of Facebook

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Post by newscracker »

JustSomeNobody wrote: post #38

I'm not entirely convinced FB will exist in any significant form in 10 years.

I'd wish for that to be true for a few different reasons, but it's not going to happen. FB will exist, morph into what other services provide, and even perhaps struggle a bit to grow or to handle a reduction in active users as other services (like Snapchat) grab more users. The social media world will see more and more copying of ideas between different walled gardens. But the resolve shown by FB in keeping the platform and making it better is in stark contrast to the several bungles and lack of focus and attention from the likes of Google+ (still no vanity URLs for all in 2016?!).

Re: Mark Zuckerberg on the next 10 years of Facebook

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Post by dharmach »

firasd wrote: post #5

On Free Basics: "We’ve learned a lot about how we need to interact with governments and the political system and regulators, and build support in order to have these things work. And I think we’ll take those lessons forward on the future work we’re doing in Free Basics, which by the way is continuing to roll out around the world. One day, once we’ve shown that it’s a successful program around the world, I hope that w…

Control is power. Google controls what people can find on the web. Facebook wants to control what people can access on the web.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg on the next 10 years of Facebook

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Post by aerovistae »

gohrt wrote: post #43
aerovistae wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Makes no sense. With $10 billion in net worth, if Musk sold his stock and lived for 40 more years, he could spend about $685,000 per day for the rest of his life. Yet people think he's in this for more money. Hysterical.

Yet you think Zuck is in it for more money?

No, I don't know what Zuck is in it for. I just don't like what he does, nor the way he does it, regardless of what his intent is.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg on the next 10 years of Facebook

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Post by davidivadavid »

uptown wrote: post #17

I'm curious what others think about the vision for a more-connected world. While I think the positives far outweigh the negatives in abstract, I wonder if the relatively segregated and disconnected civilizations we've built until now are equipped to deal with the complexities of a more-connected world. Cultural differences, religious differences, ethical differences, etc. are all potential points of friction when you…

What I'm curious to see is if anyone is going to take the opposite end of that bet: Facebook's "openness"/"World is flat"/"End of history" vs. decentralized, tribal, anonymized, balkanized social networks.

As Facebook keeps accumulating users, and as users accumulate "friends", the SNR decreases and makes the product experience less valuable, notwithstanding the efforts they make to "optimize" the feed. Mine is mostly filled with things I'd rather never see.

Facebook is a social network that mostly reproduces geographic social networks, but that doesn't connect people based on affinities. The people discovery mechanism is close to non-existent. People in your Facebook neighbourhood are people who most likely live in your current, past, or "work" neighbourhood.

Are there any social networks that try to dynamically create communities/"neighbourhoods" based on behavior? (e.g. upvote a post and you get "closer" to the poster, with symmetric behavior for downvoting, and second order effects propagating to other users based on their own upvote/downvote of said post).

Apologies if that's too vague, I'm thinking out loud here.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg on the next 10 years of Facebook

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Post by JustSomeNobody »

Yhippa wrote: post #54
JustSomeNobody wrote: post #38

I'm not entirely convinced FB will exist in any significant form in 10 years.

Why do you think that? I'm trying hard to think of something that would make it go the way of Friendster.

I'm not saying it won't exist. I just think it'll go the way of Yahoo! (oh wait.) I think people will move on to something else. Many young people don't have an account and many people who do only have one begrudgingly.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg on the next 10 years of Facebook

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Post by untilHellbanned »

dang wrote: post #21
leakybit wrote: post #18

Zuckerberg in 10 years will be the Internets public enemy #1. The collection of tubes in which we refer to as the Internet, will eventual converge into a single tube leading straight into Mr. Zuckerbergs rectum, in which will give him the ability to feed us all his shit.

You've posted several uncivil, unsubstantive, and/or inflammatory comments to Hacker News. We ban accounts that do that, so please don't do that. Instead, please read what we're looking for on this site, and abide by the rules. That means posting civilly and substantively, or not at all. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newswelcome.html

Tangent, but I'm fairly confident that voting here is often done less civilly than commenting. Blind upvoting of top comments, upvoting of shallowly positive comments, and downvoting of negative comments that are highly accurate but just not want people want to read, are a real problem here. It leads to rage commenting. It leads to groupthink. All sorts of undesirable consequences. So in HN's hierarchy of needs, I'd like to see more work on voting algos.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg on the next 10 years of Facebook

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Post by bedhead »

Of all the household name tech leaders (Brin, Bezos, Musk, Jobs, etc), Zuckerberg really does strike me as the least substantial and most likely to be inauthentic. Obviously this is just a personal opinion but Facebook seems so laughably inconsequential compared to all of the companies that have made these other founders rich and famous. Apple invents incredible stuff. Google has organized the world's information in astounding ways. Musk is trying to change how energy is consumed (clown show aside). Facebook sells ads based on viral videos of cats falling off furniture and provides yet another forum for people to showcase their own vanity. It's not surprising to me that this is a guy who right before Facebook, created a website to compete with "Hot or Not".

Re: Mark Zuckerberg on the next 10 years of Facebook

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Post by dbgllm »

elorant wrote: post #51
smokeyj wrote: post #30

Something about Zuck just seems inauthentic and robotic. Maybe the style of writing makes it sound like a sponsored PR piece, or maybe it's the incessant corporate speak. I suspect the reality is Zuck is a strong CEO and weak innovator. Facebook is established and boring, and now all that's left is to entrench the world with proprietary Zuckernet. I strongly suspect Zuck will become the characterized depiction of the…

I believe the problem with Mark lies in the fact that to many of us he hasn’t build anything substantial. Sure, from a technical point of view Facebook is spectacular. Other than that it’s a boring place adding no value whatsoever to the Internet. There’s nothing innovative about it. He’s isn’t solving any kind of problem. Compared to other giants of our industry he seems dull and irrelevant. And so does his vision.

>Compared to other giants of our industry he seems dull and irrelevant

Well, that is if you only view facebook.com, the product. But the tech that it supports and develops can be pretty cool. Oculus, React, and all kinds of research stuff. A bit like you don't necessarily regard Bell at anything exciting but it still finances Bell Labs which is pretty cool.

But I realize that's not what we're talking about.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg on the next 10 years of Facebook

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Post by DarkTree »

perseusprime11 wrote: post #75
smokeyj wrote: post #30

Something about Zuck just seems inauthentic and robotic. Maybe the style of writing makes it sound like a sponsored PR piece, or maybe it's the incessant corporate speak. I suspect the reality is Zuck is a strong CEO and weak innovator. Facebook is established and boring, and now all that's left is to entrench the world with proprietary Zuckernet. I strongly suspect Zuck will become the characterized depiction of the…

Steve Jobs did this really well. If you want to show authenticity, you need to show both your good and the bad side. All we see from Zuck is his good side and that's why he comes across as pretentious.

That's an interesting insight that I never really realized before. I think a lot of people try to pinpoint why Steve Jobs is and was so respected despite the negative ways he treated people. I may have lost respect for him through these accounts, but I don't think I've ever questioned his authenticity.
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