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Peter Thiel’s Embrace of Trump Has Silicon Valley Squirming

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Re: Peter Thiel’s Embrace of Trump Has Silicon Valley Squirming

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"Courage is in even shorter supply than genius." -Peter Thiel

"A witty saying proves nothing." - Voltaire

That's why Peter Thiel not only speaks intelligently but also takes action. While I have serious misgivings about the move, I stand in awe of the courage he has. I suspect it comes from the same reservoir he drew from to invest in SpaceX over a decade ago when it looked insane to people, or to start Paypal. I don't always agree with the man, but I have tremendous respect for both his genius and his courage.

Re: Peter Thiel’s Embrace of Trump Has Silicon Valley Squirming

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post #73

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1) Mexican isn't a race - it is a nationality. There are people of all races that are Mexican. 2) Curiels parents were illegal immigrants, and exactly the kind of people that Trump says he would deport. 3) Curiel has mentioned in the past (in a NYT article from the early 2000s, I can find a link if you like) that his Mexican heritage has had an impact in his practice of the law. 4) Curiel isn't a robot. Imagine if he…

I'm curious which of these points downvoters are disagreeing with. I say this as someone with family members who look very much "Mexican" to most Americans. I don't like Trump's talk at all, but how would anyone with illegal immigrant parents would have comfortable family gatherings after supporting Trump? Job or not, family is strong. Is this just an example of herd HN behavior?

The last one - 5. There is no such thing as reverse racism.

Re: Peter Thiel’s Embrace of Trump Has Silicon Valley Squirming

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post #116

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Unless Thiel is actually interested in backing a candidate with a chance of winning - in which case, 5% means nothing.

Being included the debates is not "nothing".

Being included in the debates is not winning. I consider myself to be mostly a Libertarian, but I have no illusions. Short of some beyond comprehension post-singularity-ish event, no Libertarian will ever win the Presidency.

Re: Peter Thiel’s Embrace of Trump Has Silicon Valley Squirming

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post #141

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"A witty saying proves nothing." - Voltaire

That's why Peter Thiel not only speaks intelligently but also takes action. While I have serious misgivings about the move, I stand in awe of the courage he has. I suspect it comes from the same reservoir he drew from to invest in SpaceX over a decade ago when it looked insane to people, or to start Paypal. I don't always agree with the man, but I have tremendous respect for both his genius and his courage.

Sure. But those accomplishments have nothing to do with his pro-Trump views.

Re: Peter Thiel’s Embrace of Trump Has Silicon Valley Squirming

#146
post #36

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Don't you think being a Trump supporter =should= hurt most people's careers? It's pretty poor judgment, for starters.

Pat, that is a pretty disgusting thing to say. Please reconsider if political viewpoints are worthy of career punishment.

They aren't... but can we make an exception?

Re: Peter Thiel’s Embrace of Trump Has Silicon Valley Squirming

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post #47

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The Wall? Anti-trade? Believes judges with Muslim or Mexican heritage are incapable of being fair?

Mexico has a massive border wall on its southern border with Guatemala. Is that racist too? Not sure exactly what you mean by anti-trade, and how it relates to racism. Mexican is a nationality, not a race. There are Mexicans of all races, including white(which latinos are classed as, but lets say western european ethnicity too) Islam is a religion, not a race. There are Muslims of all races, including white.

"Mexico has a massive border wall on its southern border with Guatemala"

No it doesn't.

Re: Peter Thiel’s Embrace of Trump Has Silicon Valley Squirming

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post #12

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> Given the libertarian/Randian streak that runs through silicon valley, support for Trump doesn't seem too outlandish. What? Exactly what libertarian values does Trump espouse?

Decreased regulation, meritocratic systems, and property rights Why is this being downvoted?

> Decreased regulation

Unless he gets annoyed and calls up bill gates to shut off the internet.

> meritocratic systems

Except for Muslims.

Re: Peter Thiel’s Embrace of Trump Has Silicon Valley Squirming

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post #15

> After that, he suggested, things went south because, among other things, women were given the right to vote. Wow, does Peter Thiel really think that women shouldn't be allowed to vote?

The article is referring to a line from this article: http://www.cato-unbound.org/2009/04/13/peter-thiel/education... The line in question: " Since 1920, the vast increase in welfare beneficiaries and the extension of the franchise to women — two constituencies that are notoriously tough for libertarians — have rendered the notion of “capitalist democracy” into an oxymoron."

How shocking, people who aren't set for life aren't in favor of idiotic "I got mine" libertarian style policies.

Re: Peter Thiel’s Embrace of Trump Has Silicon Valley Squirming

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post #141

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That's why Peter Thiel not only speaks intelligently but also takes action. While I have serious misgivings about the move, I stand in awe of the courage he has. I suspect it comes from the same reservoir he drew from to invest in SpaceX over a decade ago when it looked insane to people, or to start Paypal. I don't always agree with the man, but I have tremendous respect for both his genius and his courage.

Sure. But those accomplishments have nothing to do with his pro-Trump views.

It's not about having a given view.

Doing what you believe when most your peers agree with you is easy. It's about having a view, knowing it's unpopular and still having the courage to publicly state it and face the mob that is extraordinary.

People who do that sometimes change the world (and other times get burnt at the stake).

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