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Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

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Post by jsprogrammer »

thomasfoster96 wrote: post #211
jsprogrammer wrote: post #185

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Unfortunately my current network appears to block that site. Perhaps you could paste a quote from that page that is relevant to this discussion? The argument here is that this use is non-commercial (we are also apparently arguing about a non-respondent trademark), so the financial stability of entrepreneurs is irrelevant.

Intellectual property is still intellectual property, even if a non-profit is using it. Your argument would allow any nonprofit to use the trademarks of any business in the United States, which is clearly neither good for entrepreneurs nor legal.

Nonprofits are typically engaged in commercial activity.

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

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Post by jsprogrammer »

cerebellum42 wrote: post #215
jsprogrammer wrote: post #183

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So simple that you cannot even provide a link? This is what I found on the front page of that Google search: > At the same time, the statute characterizes certain activities as non-actionable “exclusions,” including “ any noncommercial use of a mark.” any any any That was from the beginning text of a link on the first page of Google results for the search that you told me to make. Did you read any of the pages? Or is…

> Non-commercial use cannot be prevented, except if that use harms the distinctiveness of the trademark That is clearly the case here.

Clearly not. HyperTerm is a portmanteau of the underlying tech.

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

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Post by HeavyStorm »

digler999 wrote: post #138
Jtsummers wrote: post #38

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A very similar name for a product sitting in the same space (terminal emulator). That's generally an unwise decision as it can create confusion for both projects, and the one with the trademark (especially since this new one's name is a substring of the older project) is in a position to make a valid claim against the new project. If someone created a new project called Steem to deliver video games to end users[, wou…

> if Valve took issue isn't it true that companies have to take issue, otherwise they lose their trademark? I used to be angry when large corporations would sue a little guy or nonprofit over name squabbles, but then I heard that the big company can lose their trademark if they dont.

I probably heard the same thing as you. With the whole Scrolls fiasco, I think. Someone explained Bethesda had to go after Mojang.

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

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Post by swiley »

__b__ wrote: post #197
dsl wrote: post #19

The folks who make HyperTerm might have something to say about your product naming... http://www.hilgraeve.com/hyperterminal/ Edit: I'm surprised more people in the HN crowd aren't familiar with HyperTerm (Yes that is the name and what everyone called it for many many years) It was bundled with Windows up to 7, and is still used heavily in industrial control areas.

Before UNIX was ported to the PC, I used a DOS program called Crosstalk Communicator. Today it's so easy to run a small UNIX kernel on a PC. Why would "industrial control areas" still be using Windows, if what they need is terminal emulation? Tradition? Windows-only software? Windows on a networked computer sounds like a potential security hazard in such places. Maybe they can get the domain name through UDRP.

32 bit windows XP was an RTOS. This is one of the reasons so many people where reluctant to leave it.

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Post by uniclaude »

whamlastxmas wrote: post #209
johnfn wrote: post #168

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These comments really make me ashamed of the HN community.

I appreciate that the HN community doesn't feel the need to sugar coat something that is obviously bullshit. If you don't want people to critique your work, don't post it on discussion forums.

Yet there is such a thing as a middle ground in criticism. I'm glad HN is not product hunt (a mix of "hey check my alternative product" and "hey that's amazing, best product ever, wow"), but the comments on that thread were harsh cheap shots taken at the author. Only a single commenter was able to provide constructive feedback, which is a shame.

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Post by joshmanders »

Azkar wrote: post #105
jackmott wrote: post #102

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Well for instance, Atom and VSCode have ~50ms (or ~49x) more input latency than editors written in C (source: https://pavelfatin.com/typing-with-pleasure/ ) But maybe we are willing to accept 50x worse performance and higher memory requirements and slower startup time because the language is nice and guarantees correctness....Well no, it is javascript, not Haskell or Lisp. So, what is the win here? Why have we collec…

Well now when someone removes left pad from npm your whole terminal can break.

No it can't. After that whole fiasco npm has made it so packages once published cannot be removed after a 24 hour window without npm manually doing it on your behalf, that is to make sure this instance never does happen again.

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

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Post by joshmanders »

pablovidal85 wrote: post #173
codezero wrote: post #59

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On my system, a long running Slack process uses about as much memory as a Finder window.

On mac, slack uses macgap, not electron.

Was this a recent change? Because electron's homepage[0] still shows that Slack was built on it.

[0]: http://electron.atom.io/

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

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Post by CGamesPlay »

dejawu wrote: post #68

Anybody remember TermKit[0]? This was my first thought when I saw "JS/HTML/CSS Terminal". It was built on WebKit (five years ago, before the everything-in-JS craze really began) and had a lot of really promising features like smart MIME-type support... and then development sort of stopped. I'd love to see the concept revisited with present-day technologies and platforms. [0]: https://acko.net/blog/on-termkit/

There are several projects working on this!

The biggest is Black Screen, but I've also got one and seen some others.

- https://github.com/shockone/black-screen - https://github.com/CGamesPlay/hterminal - https://github.com/sedwards2009/extraterm

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