Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

hyperterm.org

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

181–190 of 267 posts

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

#181

Post by [deleted] »

Jtsummers wrote: post #46
michaelmior wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think a good terminal emulator is far from trivial. Edit: I'm not sure I do know what you mean. I agree that building trivial apps in Electron probably doesn't make sense. But my terminal emulator is something I spend most of my day using. If building that on top of 14 million lines of C++ gives me a better piece of software, I'm all for it.

https://www.openhub.net/p/putty Perhaps not as feature comlpete, and not my daily use terminal emulator, but it's only 110k lines of code. And it's not just a terminal emulator, that's just one thing it does in that 110k lines of code. EDIT: I was going to look up others but I'm distracted by other obligations. My point being: Terminal Emulators aren't actually that complex.

[deleted]

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

#182

Post by OhSoHumble »

guessmyname wrote: post #112
627467 wrote: post #88

"Builds for Windows and Linux are coming very soon" I can't wait. Anyone knows how I could build this on windows?

Follow the instructions from the GitHub page [1] the ones under the "Contribute" title, that will be enough for you. If you don't know how to work with a Node.JS project then wait for their official Windows release. [1] https://github.com/zeit/hyperterm#contribute

Their installation notes involve executing a bash script.

Also, the node package `child_pty` is part of the dependency tree - which doesn't support Windows. This is all totally fine but now I'm genuinely curious about how this builds on Windows.

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

#183

Post by jsprogrammer »

tptacek wrote: post #162
jsprogrammer wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please explain how they work. The US government has only been given the authority to regulate interstate commerce. A downmod is not an explanation. You could post a snippet of law, for example.

If this comment isn't a troll, it's epsilon from it. We don't need to litigate the Constitution; a simple Google search for [trademark noncommercial] will suffice.

So simple that you cannot even provide a link?

This is what I found on the front page of that Google search:

> At the same time, the statute characterizes certain activities as non-actionable “exclusions,” including “any noncommercial use of a mark.”

any any

any

That was from the beginning text of a link on the first page of Google results for the search that you told me to make. Did you read any of the pages? Or is your comment just trolling?

For context, I was responded with:

> That's not how trademarks work.

Care to retract?

Edit: Multiple links on the front page of that search appear to validate my thesis. You have provided no corroborative evidence.

Edit2: Wow, my previous comment was flagged. Brutal. And not even a valid response could be generated.

Edit3: Another choice quote from the front page: "Non-commercial use cannot be prevented, except if that use harms the distinctiveness of the trademark."

Edit4: "The good news is that courts have consistently protected the public's right to use the trademarks of others in order to engage in criticism, commentary, news reporting and other forms of noncommercial expression." First link.

Edit5: "Many companies claim trademark infringement or dilution when pursuing unauthorized uses of their names or logos on the Web - but it's not entirely clear how these laws apply to noncommercial activity on the Net." Contradicts the "definitely" claim that I first responded to.

Edit6: Good thing my post was censored. Might not want to get these claims widely visible.

Edit7: Who is trolling now?

Edit8: Maybe you could give a court citation?

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

#185

Post by jsprogrammer »

JoBrad wrote: post #160
jsprogrammer wrote: post #156

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please explain how they work. The US government has only been given the authority to regulate interstate commerce. A downmod is not an explanation. You could post a snippet of law, for example.

That's a gross misunderstanding of the Constitution. Some very simple searching lands you at this page, which has some helpful information about trademarks, how to pick one, and how to enforce it. Properly enforced, trademarks are a source of financial stability for entrepreneurs, and it is entirely in the realm of the US government to regulate them. http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks-getting-started/trademark-ba...

Unfortunately my current network appears to block that site. Perhaps you could paste a quote from that page that is relevant to this discussion?

The argument here is that this use is non-commercial (we are also apparently arguing about a non-respondent trademark), so the financial stability of entrepreneurs is irrelevant.

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

#186

Post by woah »

asdf1234 wrote: post #65
michaelmior wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For the majority of applications, I'd imagine there's a negligible performance difference. Besides, any app built on Electron will run infinitely faster than one which wasn't built at all since the developer didn't want to learn another language. I'm not saying Electron is suitable for everything, but I think it has its place.

> negligible performance difference Using Atom or VS Code instead of Emacs cuts my battery life by a few hours. The Spotify desktop app that uses a ton of JavaScript is also horribly inefficient and has a big impact on battery life. None of this is negligible.

On which OS?

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

#187

Post by tedunangst »

jsprogrammer wrote: post #183
tptacek wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If this comment isn't a troll, it's epsilon from it. We don't need to litigate the Constitution; a simple Google search for [trademark noncommercial] will suffice.

So simple that you cannot even provide a link? This is what I found on the front page of that Google search: > At the same time, the statute characterizes certain activities as non-actionable “exclusions,” including “ any noncommercial use of a mark.” any any any That was from the beginning text of a link on the first page of Google results for the search that you told me to make. Did you read any of the pages? Or is…

Wait, are you saying that hyperterm is a criticism of or commentary on hyperterminal?

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

#188

Post by woah »

Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #74
codezero wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My iTerm process is using about 170mb of memory, though that's admittedly less than half of what Slack is using. Big picture, with 8gb of ram, this is not a problem.

I have 6 terminals open right now and that's my baseline. I often go up to 12-15 terms.

Presumably, multiple tabs in this browser based terminal would only use one chrome process

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

#189

Post by mitchtbaum »

tedunangst wrote: post #187
jsprogrammer wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So simple that you cannot even provide a link? This is what I found on the front page of that Google search: > At the same time, the statute characterizes certain activities as non-actionable “exclusions,” including “ any noncommercial use of a mark.” any any any That was from the beginning text of a link on the first page of Google results for the search that you told me to make. Did you read any of the pages? Or is…

Wait, are you saying that hyperterm is a criticism of or commentary on hyperterminal?

"criticism of or commentary on" != "criticism, commentary, news reporting and other forms of noncommercial expression"

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

#190

Post by jsprogrammer »

tedunangst wrote: post #187
jsprogrammer wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So simple that you cannot even provide a link? This is what I found on the front page of that Google search: > At the same time, the statute characterizes certain activities as non-actionable “exclusions,” including “ any noncommercial use of a mark.” any any any That was from the beginning text of a link on the first page of Google results for the search that you told me to make. Did you read any of the pages? Or is…

Wait, are you saying that hyperterm is a criticism of or commentary on hyperterminal?

No. Where did you see (or think you saw) me say that?
Post reply on HN