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Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

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Post by masukomi »

im_down_w_otp wrote: post #52
dsl wrote: post #19

The folks who make HyperTerm might have something to say about your product naming... http://www.hilgraeve.com/hyperterminal/ Edit: I'm surprised more people in the HN crowd aren't familiar with HyperTerm (Yes that is the name and what everyone called it for many many years) It was bundled with Windows up to 7, and is still used heavily in industrial control areas.

Perhaps a rename to "HyperTermiML" is in order.

that probably wouldn't be different enough to satisfy a trademark infringement. you could easily make a case that those are confusable, and obviously similar types of products (both terminal emulators).

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

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Post by masukomi »

eridius wrote: post #69
nathancahill wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Besides iTerm2 maybe. Default config is very similar to the built-in OS X terminal.

I would not recommend iTerm2 to a beginner. The iTerm developers believe in the kitchen sink approach to preferences, which is not very beginner-friendly. And there's not much reason to use iTerm2 in general anyway now that Terminal.app has mouse support, I'm only aware of a few relatively esoteric features that iTerm2 has that Terminal doesn't (support for colors outside of the 256-color palette, and built-in suppor…

pretty sure that iTerm2 for a beginner is pretty much identical to Terminal. At that stage don't know enough to leverage it's fancy capabilities so they don't get in the way and confuse you. When you're ready for them, they're there for you. In Terminal you have something that looks and works almost identical but when you want more you can't have it.

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

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Post by minitech »

benbenolson wrote: post #106

There was another project that's extremely similar to this posted a week or so ago, and it got a lot of flak for existing; I don't think very many commenters agreed with its existence (except, perhaps, as an educational exercise for the programmer). That project was posted here: http://rungoterminal.com/ This, however, is executed and presented much better than that other project, and catered towards the correct crow…

Yep, the videos are hugely important. The first half of Go Terminal's is just creating aliases (which is easier to do without the fancy UI), and that's where I got bored and closed the page. This project actually showed some interesting things.

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

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Post by audleman »

benbenolson wrote: post #106

There was another project that's extremely similar to this posted a week or so ago, and it got a lot of flak for existing; I don't think very many commenters agreed with its existence (except, perhaps, as an educational exercise for the programmer). That project was posted here: http://rungoterminal.com/ This, however, is executed and presented much better than that other project, and catered towards the correct crow…

Still seems like a fundamental misunderstanding of what a terminal is for. I SSH into any number of boxes every day, be it on my RaspberryPi, client machines in AWS, crappy hosting providers, etc. The standard bash terminal is there on all of them, which can not be said of any project like this.

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

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Post by vanderZwan »

dejawu wrote: post #68

Anybody remember TermKit[0]? This was my first thought when I saw "JS/HTML/CSS Terminal". It was built on WebKit (five years ago, before the everything-in-JS craze really began) and had a lot of really promising features like smart MIME-type support... and then development sort of stopped. I'd love to see the concept revisited with present-day technologies and platforms. [0]: https://acko.net/blog/on-termkit/

He did a follow-up on Reddit explaining what happened:

https://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/137kd9/18_mont...

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

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Post by jsprogrammer »

zyxley wrote: post #141
jsprogrammer wrote: post #130

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This doesn't appear to be a commercial product, so there could be no trademark violation.

That's not how trademarks work.

Please explain how they work. The US government has only been given the authority to regulate interstate commerce.

A downmod is not an explanation. You could post a snippet of law, for example.

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

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Post by nilliams »

audleman wrote: post #154
benbenolson wrote: post #106

There was another project that's extremely similar to this posted a week or so ago, and it got a lot of flak for existing; I don't think very many commenters agreed with its existence (except, perhaps, as an educational exercise for the programmer). That project was posted here: http://rungoterminal.com/ This, however, is executed and presented much better than that other project, and catered towards the correct crow…

Still seems like a fundamental misunderstanding of what a terminal is for. I SSH into any number of boxes every day, be it on my RaspberryPi, client machines in AWS, crappy hosting providers, etc. The standard bash terminal is there on all of them, which can not be said of any project like this.

This is a 'terminal emulator' (client). So what you ssh into is irrelevant and Bash etc. are also irrelevant. This is a client you could ssh from (and use whatever shell you like, locally and remotely).

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

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Post by jsnathan »

sigzero wrote: post #27
dsl wrote: post #19

The folks who make HyperTerm might have something to say about your product naming... http://www.hilgraeve.com/hyperterminal/ Edit: I'm surprised more people in the HN crowd aren't familiar with HyperTerm (Yes that is the name and what everyone called it for many many years) It was bundled with Windows up to 7, and is still used heavily in industrial control areas.

That's "HyperTerminal" not "HyperTerm".

Anyone remember this?

> On February 20, 2004, the developers of wxWindows announced that the project was changing its name to wxWidgets, as a result of Microsoft requesting Julian Smart to respect Microsoft's United Kingdom trademark of the term Windows. [1]

That being said, I think if MS doesn't ask them to change it, there isn't much to worry about. "wxWindows" was originally started in 1992.

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WxWidgets

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

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Post by JoBrad »

jsprogrammer wrote: post #156
zyxley wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's not how trademarks work.

Please explain how they work. The US government has only been given the authority to regulate interstate commerce. A downmod is not an explanation. You could post a snippet of law, for example.

That's a gross misunderstanding of the Constitution. Some very simple searching lands you at this page, which has some helpful information about trademarks, how to pick one, and how to enforce it. Properly enforced, trademarks are a source of financial stability for entrepreneurs, and it is entirely in the realm of the US government to regulate them. http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks-getting-started/trademark-ba...
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