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Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

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Post by michaelmior » Fri, Jul 15, 2016, 5:27 PM UTC

Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #13

codezero wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use two tools daily that are built on Electron and they are great. Not only that, but it's never obvious they run on Electron. I'm curious, what do you hate so much about it?

How about the fact that your computer now has three enormous copies of chromium on it for no good reason?

If you have the RAM for it and the software works well, who cares? Plus, it seems potential improvements are coming in this area.

https://github.com/electron/electron/issues/673

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

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Post by parent5446 » Fri, Jul 15, 2016, 5:28 PM UTC

A while ago I wrote something similar to this as a school project, but instead of being a local terminal, it was for a remote server. There was a sort of virtual file system the user interacted with, with metadata stored in MySQL, as one does for school projects.

The moral of the story is that I hated having a terminal in JavaScript for a remote server, so I have no idea why I would want one for my local computer.

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

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Post by suyash » Fri, Jul 15, 2016, 5:29 PM UTC

eridius wrote: post #12

Neetpeople wrote: post #3

Would you recommend this to a beginner? Hilariously I'm actually asking for a friend, I don't have a Mac.

OS X comes with a built-in terminal (that's actually pretty good). There's no reason for a beginner to reach for any third-party terminal software.

Yes beginner should start with plain old bash IMO.

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

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Post by suyash » Fri, Jul 15, 2016, 5:29 PM UTC

This is bad ass job, congratulations. Like someone else mention in the comments, execution and idea you get 100/100 points.

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

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Post by michaelmior » Fri, Jul 15, 2016, 5:30 PM UTC

Zolomon wrote: post #16

michaelmior wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious why there's so much node/electron negativity circulating. (Although I guess asking for positivity when it comes to electron is a bit of a stretch :P)

I believe it has to do with the amount of performance lost in the overhead with the electron stack versus a native implementation. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

For the majority of applications, I'd imagine there's a negligible performance difference. Besides, any app built on Electron will run infinitely faster than one which wasn't built at all since the developer didn't want to learn another language. I'm not saying Electron is suitable for everything, but I think it has its place.

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

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Post by jahewson » Fri, Jul 15, 2016, 5:32 PM UTC

teamhappy wrote: post #15

michaelmior wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious why there's so much node/electron negativity circulating. (Although I guess asking for positivity when it comes to electron is a bit of a stretch :P)

Trivial apps depending on 14+ million lines of code is not a good thing. Edit: @michaelmior I think you know what I mean.

How many lines is the JDK? or .NET, or libcpp?

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

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Post by sigzero » Fri, Jul 15, 2016, 5:34 PM UTC

dsl wrote: post #19

The folks who make HyperTerm might have something to say about your product naming... http://www.hilgraeve.com/hyperterminal/ Edit: I'm surprised more people in the HN crowd aren't familiar with HyperTerm (Yes that is the name and what everyone called it for many many years) It was bundled with Windows up to 7, and is still used heavily in industrial control areas.

That's "HyperTerminal" not "HyperTerm".

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

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Post by betenoire » Fri, Jul 15, 2016, 5:34 PM UTC

dsl wrote: post #19

The folks who make HyperTerm might have something to say about your product naming... http://www.hilgraeve.com/hyperterminal/ Edit: I'm surprised more people in the HN crowd aren't familiar with HyperTerm (Yes that is the name and what everyone called it for many many years) It was bundled with Windows up to 7, and is still used heavily in industrial control areas.

not the same name, but close. (I can't find the text "HyperTerm" on that page)

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

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Post by sgrove » Fri, Jul 15, 2016, 5:36 PM UTC

teamhappy wrote: post #15

michaelmior wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious why there's so much node/electron negativity circulating. (Although I guess asking for positivity when it comes to electron is a bit of a stretch :P)

Trivial apps depending on 14+ million lines of code is not a good thing. Edit: @michaelmior I think you know what I mean.

I agree, but I'd take it a step further - the 15+ million Lo(memory-unsafe!)C for the unix kernel other (all?) trivial apps sits on is also not a good thing.

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

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Post by random28345 » Fri, Jul 15, 2016, 5:36 PM UTC

michaelmior wrote: post #8

rosalinekarr wrote: post #5

This looks very well executed and really cool, but I'm honestly really tired of all the node/electron terminals. In its favor, this project looks a lot more clean and less opinionated than that 'Black Screen' monstrocity.

I'm curious why there's so much node/electron negativity circulating. (Although I guess asking for positivity when it comes to electron is a bit of a stretch :P)

> I'm curious why there's so much node/electron negativity circulating.

"There are only two kinds of languages: the ones people complain about and the ones nobody uses".

--Bjarne Stroustrup

I'm pretty sure that applies to language runtimes as well.

> Although I guess asking for positivity when it comes to electron is a bit of a stretch

I like to stay current, and in this charged environment, I'd be shocked if anode runtime wasn't at the nucleus of every accelerator.

I'm sure Dijkstra is half-spinning in his grave.