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Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

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Post by posterboy » Fri, Jul 15, 2016, 5:16 PM UTC

the video is a bit silly in the end

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

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Post by eridius » Fri, Jul 15, 2016, 5:18 PM UTC

Neetpeople wrote: post #3

Would you recommend this to a beginner? Hilariously I'm actually asking for a friend, I don't have a Mac.

OS X comes with a built-in terminal (that's actually pretty good). There's no reason for a beginner to reach for any third-party terminal software.

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

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Post by Sir_Cmpwn » Fri, Jul 15, 2016, 5:20 PM UTC

codezero wrote: post #9

Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm tired of node/electron anything.

I use two tools daily that are built on Electron and they are great. Not only that, but it's never obvious they run on Electron. I'm curious, what do you hate so much about it?

How about the fact that your computer now has three enormous copies of chromium on it for no good reason?

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

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Post by mej10 » Fri, Jul 15, 2016, 5:22 PM UTC

michaelmior wrote: post #8

rosalinekarr wrote: post #5

This looks very well executed and really cool, but I'm honestly really tired of all the node/electron terminals. In its favor, this project looks a lot more clean and less opinionated than that 'Black Screen' monstrocity.

I'm curious why there's so much node/electron negativity circulating. (Although I guess asking for positivity when it comes to electron is a bit of a stretch :P)

There are more and more applications based on it -- negativity increases along with popularity.

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

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Post by teamhappy » Fri, Jul 15, 2016, 5:24 PM UTC

michaelmior wrote: post #8

rosalinekarr wrote: post #5

This looks very well executed and really cool, but I'm honestly really tired of all the node/electron terminals. In its favor, this project looks a lot more clean and less opinionated than that 'Black Screen' monstrocity.

I'm curious why there's so much node/electron negativity circulating. (Although I guess asking for positivity when it comes to electron is a bit of a stretch :P)

Trivial apps depending on 14+ million lines of code is not a good thing.

Edit: @michaelmior I think you know what I mean.

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

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Post by Zolomon » Fri, Jul 15, 2016, 5:25 PM UTC

michaelmior wrote: post #8

rosalinekarr wrote: post #5

This looks very well executed and really cool, but I'm honestly really tired of all the node/electron terminals. In its favor, this project looks a lot more clean and less opinionated than that 'Black Screen' monstrocity.

I'm curious why there's so much node/electron negativity circulating. (Although I guess asking for positivity when it comes to electron is a bit of a stretch :P)

I believe it has to do with the amount of performance lost in the overhead with the electron stack versus a native implementation.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Jul 15, 2016, 5:25 PM UTC

michaelmior wrote: post #8

rosalinekarr wrote: post #5

This looks very well executed and really cool, but I'm honestly really tired of all the node/electron terminals. In its favor, this project looks a lot more clean and less opinionated than that 'Black Screen' monstrocity.

I'm curious why there's so much node/electron negativity circulating. (Although I guess asking for positivity when it comes to electron is a bit of a stretch :P)

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Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

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Post by michaelmior » Fri, Jul 15, 2016, 5:26 PM UTC

teamhappy wrote: post #15

michaelmior wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious why there's so much node/electron negativity circulating. (Although I guess asking for positivity when it comes to electron is a bit of a stretch :P)

Trivial apps depending on 14+ million lines of code is not a good thing. Edit: @michaelmior I think you know what I mean.

I think a good terminal emulator is far from trivial.

Edit: I'm not sure I do know what you mean. I agree that building trivial apps in Electron probably doesn't make sense. But my terminal emulator is something I spend most of my day using. If building that on top of 14 million lines of C++ gives me a better piece of software, I'm all for it.

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

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Post by dsl » Fri, Jul 15, 2016, 5:27 PM UTC

The folks who make HyperTerm might have something to say about your product naming...

http://www.hilgraeve.com/hyperterminal/

Edit: I'm surprised more people in the HN crowd aren't familiar with HyperTerm (Yes that is the name and what everyone called it for many many years) It was bundled with Windows up to 7, and is still used heavily in industrial control areas.

Re: HyperTerm – JS/HTML/CSS Terminal

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Post by sehr » Fri, Jul 15, 2016, 5:27 PM UTC

michaelmior wrote: post #8

rosalinekarr wrote: post #5

This looks very well executed and really cool, but I'm honestly really tired of all the node/electron terminals. In its favor, this project looks a lot more clean and less opinionated than that 'Black Screen' monstrocity.

I'm curious why there's so much node/electron negativity circulating. (Although I guess asking for positivity when it comes to electron is a bit of a stretch :P)

They're slow, big, and outrageously inefficient. Most electron apps also come with this weird web influenced "I'm kinda native y'all trust me" UI design which makes it even worse. My battery and eyes simply can't stand the things.