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Amazon's Chinese Counterfeit Problem Is Getting Worse

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Re: Amazon's Chinese Counterfeit Problem Is Getting Worse

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Sometimes a store will hold proxy tournaments for certain formats, but not for the standard format, and they can't be officially sanctioned events. There was a big deal about it recently with relation to counterfeiting. http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/proxies-po...

I don't play any card games, but what's honestly the big deal? Is the game about card-collecting skills, or deck-building and play strategy? It's hard to argue the latter and ban people for not having an original version of a card. I guess I don't really "get it", or I had way too much fun playing ridiculous mods (where it was fair because everyone had equally ridiculous stuff) for games (Mr. Pants Excessive Overkill…

Pay to Win is the evil.

Magic the Gathering is good.

Because.

Re: Amazon's Chinese Counterfeit Problem Is Getting Worse

#102
post #93

The book The Everything Store talks about how Amazon uses counterfeit goods to sort-of blackmail high-end goods to letting them sell. I think the book gave the example of a high-end kitchen knife brand, maybe Wüsthof, that would not allow Amazon to sell their knives. Before you know it, cheap knockoffs appeared claiming to be Wüsthof knives. When they let Amazon sell the real deal, suddenly the knockoffs disappeared…

I don't think it's blackmail. I wonder if brands like Wüsthof got exclusive agreements as part of selling on Amazon so that nobody else is allowed to list their product, therefore eliminating the knockoffs. But without an official listing then Amazon would have to sort through every reseller to see if they are selling legitimate products or not, and what incentive would Amazon have to do that?

Re: Amazon's Chinese Counterfeit Problem Is Getting Worse

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You probably have not seen how it really works in China: https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=284 https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=4297 There is no "stagnation in innovation", in fact I'd say things happen much faster because there's far more competition.

There absolutely is a loss of "savoir faire" in the west in every industry China has completely taken over. Furthermore we basically exchanged real growth for credit backed one AKA fake growth, because of all the real jobs moving to China. That's why we have all these housing market crisis. It is something the west will deeply regret 20 years down the road. Business is war, globalism won't change that fact.

  > "savoir faire"
I don't understand this phrase. All the definitions i found seem to be about personal behavior. Is there an alternate definition? What are you trying to convey?

Re: Amazon's Chinese Counterfeit Problem Is Getting Worse

#104
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Exactly this. The article mentions that they basically take all the same products and put them together. So seller B's fake item may be sold as seller A's real item and seller A gets blamed for their fake stuff. It's gotten so bad with certain groups of items I don't even try. Sunglasses, handbags, all the usual stuff you'd expect. My anecdote: I like gold colored Ray-Ban aviators with a brown or dark polarized lens.…

Amazon keeps track of which seller's inventory it originally came from, so the right person will get in trouble if a fake is sent.

Actually not if the item is in commingled inventory. When the item is commingled, the seller does not place any identifying markings, such as their unique asin bar code, on the product. Nor does Amazon place seller identifying information on commingled items. They rely on the UPC at that point for automation.

Re: Amazon's Chinese Counterfeit Problem Is Getting Worse

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post #57

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Clearly you do not understand how Amazon Warehouses work Just because you buy someing from Seller A, even if Seller A is Amazon LLC, you may not be getting stock from Seller A If I am A retailer selling SuperWidget 55, and I ship Amazon 100 Genuine SuperWidget's to store in their warehouse for amazon to ship to my customers (aka Amazon Fulfillment Service) . Then another competitor ship 100 Fake SuperWidgets to amazo…

You can choose whether to turn on comingling when using FBA.

Also, generally commingled is a bad option. We've never sent in commingled inventory and alot of products commingled is not allowed.

Re: Amazon's Chinese Counterfeit Problem Is Getting Worse

#106

Ironic anicdote: I order a cheap ($50) generic waterproof jacket from Amazon and got what was obviously a counterfit Northface (with branding and everything). Thankfully they sold and priced it as a generic so I knew what I was getting. Overall a reasonable coat but the detail elements (velcro and straps) were of poor quality.

You ordered a cheap jacket and the quality of the jacket you received was commensurate with the price and met your expectations. What is the irony?

Re: Amazon's Chinese Counterfeit Problem Is Getting Worse

#107
post #61

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Amazon keeps track of which seller's inventory it originally came from, so the right person will get in trouble if a fake is sent.

Actually not if the item is in commingled inventory. When the item is commingled, the seller does not place any identifying markings, such as their unique asin bar code, on the product. Nor does Amazon place seller identifying information on commingled items. They rely on the UPC at that point for automation.

No identifying labels does not mean Amazon doesn't know whose it is.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=...

>Although products sent to Amazon as commingled inventory may be virtually pooled with those of other sellers, we track which seller shipped the units to our fulfillment centers from the time they enter our warehouse until they are shipped to the customer. This allows us to know who sourced the item that the customer received.

Re: Amazon's Chinese Counterfeit Problem Is Getting Worse

#108
post #62

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You can choose whether to turn on comingling when using FBA.

Also, generally commingled is a bad option. We've never sent in commingled inventory and alot of products commingled is not allowed.

It really depends on what items you're selling and how many.

Re: Amazon's Chinese Counterfeit Problem Is Getting Worse

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Every time I see counterfeit power adapters/chargers on Amazon I wonder why the original maker–e.g. Apple–doesn’t lean on Amazon to stop the sale of those. Additionally, if someone dies or a house burns down[0], couldn’t that open Amazon to lawsuits? [0] http://www.righto.com/2014/05/a-look-inside-ipad-chargers-pr...

Because there's no easy way of telling if they are fake. What if they bought a bunch at the Apple store and are selling them at a lower price to get rid of the inventory?

Re: Amazon's Chinese Counterfeit Problem Is Getting Worse

#110
post #106

Ironic anicdote: I order a cheap ($50) generic waterproof jacket from Amazon and got what was obviously a counterfit Northface (with branding and everything). Thankfully they sold and priced it as a generic so I knew what I was getting. Overall a reasonable coat but the detail elements (velcro and straps) were of poor quality.

You ordered a cheap jacket and the quality of the jacket you received was commensurate with the price and met your expectations. What is the irony?

the irony is that I ordered a cheap generic jacket and got a cheap counterfeit jacket.

meaning I was OK with generic Chinese merchandise, but it is more convenient for them to supply counterfeits than to produce something actually white-labeled.

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