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Amazon's Chinese Counterfeit Problem Is Getting Worse

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Re: Amazon's Chinese Counterfeit Problem Is Getting Worse

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some system of clamps and shock cords for holding down a fitted bed sheets can hardly be fake. Anyone's implementation is likely as good as anyone else's. Though Whalley has a patent on it, the article claims, prior art for the basic idea can be seen on any truck that has a tarp tied down over a bunch of cargo.

The knockoff razor blades, however, are not nearly as sharp as the real ones.

Whose knockoffs? There are some quality ones.

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I get the feeling that Chinese businesses (who are making the real products as well) are shouting to the American consumer "you are getting ripped off, here's how much these products cost without a huge profit margin." There are plenty of low quality fakes, but as Jack Ma said, some are better than the licenced versions.

Short-term gain, long-term loss for the American consumers. If the Chinese will simply copy and crush many honest businesses then not many people will want to spend on R&D, on developing novel designs. The result is stagnation in innovation and the decline in business ethics in the market.

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post #22

I get the feeling that Chinese businesses (who are making the real products as well) are shouting to the American consumer "you are getting ripped off, here's how much these products cost without a huge profit margin." There are plenty of low quality fakes, but as Jack Ma said, some are better than the licenced versions.

Short-term gain, long-term loss for the American consumers. If the Chinese will simply copy and crush many honest businesses then not many people will want to spend on R&D, on developing novel designs. The result is stagnation in innovation and the decline in business ethics in the market.

You probably have not seen how it really works in China:

https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=284

https://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=4297

There is no "stagnation in innovation", in fact I'd say things happen much faster because there's far more competition.

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The product I've seen crash and burn in quality on Amazon UK is Koss PortaPro headphones. Loved those for many years, but the last few broke inside weeks. I am wondering if I should try to buy a last pair directly from the manufacturer. I am quite happy with my new Sennheiser, but they don't feel right... Anyone in the US with recent experience?

I bought a small "SanDisk" branded USB-storage device, I plugged it in, and started transferring files to it while I went to lunch.

When I came back, the transfer was complete, I unplugged the device, and I burned my fingers!

So now I have a broken USB-port in my Macbook, because I trusted Amazon to not sell me a fake product. I wrote a review, and rated it poorly, but they are still selling it[0], and most reviews are positive. They even write "by Sandisk", and "Dispatched from and sold by Amazon".

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B005FYNSZA/

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The product I've seen crash and burn in quality on Amazon UK is Koss PortaPro headphones. Loved those for many years, but the last few broke inside weeks. I am wondering if I should try to buy a last pair directly from the manufacturer. I am quite happy with my new Sennheiser, but they don't feel right... Anyone in the US with recent experience?

I bought a portapro during a Black Friday sale a few years and my experience was kinda like yours: it broke after a few months of use.

Re: Amazon's Chinese Counterfeit Problem Is Getting Worse

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I get the feeling that Chinese businesses (who are making the real products as well) are shouting to the American consumer "you are getting ripped off, here's how much these products cost without a huge profit margin." There are plenty of low quality fakes, but as Jack Ma said, some are better than the licenced versions.

We're going to have to get used to more of this sort of thing as 3D printing and CAD/CAM continue to be more accessible to the masses, as then it won't be possible to dismiss knock-offs as coming from "the Chinese".

(I think this fight is going to look a lot like the MPAA/RIAA vs. everyone-who-listens-to-music wars of the 2000s, except this time for real money.)

It sounds like the real problem here, if there is one, is that Amazon's rating system isn't good enough at preventing fake ratings.

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And of course Jamie Whalley has nothing Made in China in her home. Just "real" stuff. > Her patented product called BedBand consists of a set of shock cords, clamps and locks designed to keep fitted bed sheets in place. All these parts made in USA?

People are downvoting, but if her product is manufactured in China that's pretty much the reason her product was copied in such short order.

Re: Amazon's Chinese Counterfeit Problem Is Getting Worse

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post #3

The product I've seen crash and burn in quality on Amazon UK is Koss PortaPro headphones. Loved those for many years, but the last few broke inside weeks. I am wondering if I should try to buy a last pair directly from the manufacturer. I am quite happy with my new Sennheiser, but they don't feel right... Anyone in the US with recent experience?

I bought mine 18 months ago and I am extremely satisfied with the quality (both build and sound) for what I paid. They absolutely live up to the reputation PortaPros have.

Re: Amazon's Chinese Counterfeit Problem Is Getting Worse

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This will not always save you. If a company uses the "Fulfilled by Amazon" service they ship their stuff to amazon and it is co mingled with all of the other SKU's purporting to be the same item, including Amazons own stock

He said sold by Amazon. There are two ways: Fulfilled by Amazon or Sold and Shipped by Amazon. I am pretty sure he is talking about the latter. With the latter, Amazon is actually selling the item not some 3rd party. With Fulfilled by Amazon, Amazon only ships it to you, but the 3rd party is selling. It is pretty clear on the website.

The poster you are replying to probably understands this distinction. They are referring to Amazon's co-mingling of inventory. When you buy an item on Amazon which is offered by more than one FBA merchant, Amazon does not necessarily fulfill your order out of that merchant's inventory. They will ship you an identical item from whichever inventory makes most sense for your order based on such factors as proximity of FC to you, ability to bundle other items for your order from a given FC, etc. In Amazon's fulfillment systems, Amazon itself is just another merchant so ordering "Sold and Shipped by Amazon" is no guarantee of getting an item that Amazon sourced. The only time you can have any confidence is when Amazon itself is the only offer on a given ASIN.
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