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NSA tracking cellphone locations worldwide, Snowden documents show (2013)

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Re: NSA tracking cellphone locations worldwide, Snowden documents show (2013)

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So now they can detect the location of the "target" and send a drone to kill them from the convenience of their office, before going on lunch break. This really sickens me. They are inferring so much and therefore many innocent people are and will suffer. To me this system is pure evil however much the nsa try to sugar coat or spin it. Who gave them the right to do this, to track people around the world and in many c…

The people they kill are those who have killed others. Quit pretending they are innocents just minding their own business.

Or sometimes wedding parties, such as one where the US government murdered 47 innocent people:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deh_Bala_wedding_party_airstri...

Re: NSA tracking cellphone locations worldwide, Snowden documents show (2013)

#82

So now they can detect the location of the "target" and send a drone to kill them from the convenience of their office, before going on lunch break. This really sickens me. They are inferring so much and therefore many innocent people are and will suffer. To me this system is pure evil however much the nsa try to sugar coat or spin it. Who gave them the right to do this, to track people around the world and in many c…

The people they kill are those who have killed others. Quit pretending they are innocents just minding their own business.

Educate yourself: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/civilian-deaths-drone-st...

Re: NSA tracking cellphone locations worldwide, Snowden documents show (2013)

#83
post #58

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I was happy to see the disgust people had for the CIA black sites operated in other countries when that came to light during the Bush presidency. Not because of the torture, but because people here expected alleged terrorists to have the same rights as detained American citizens. I feel this is important to note, because we have a large population of young voters who I feel have concern for everyone - not just the US…

Remember that outrage over the Patriot act abuses? Obama 2008 platform promised to restore the Constitution: > We reject the use of national security letters to spy on citizens who are not suspected of a crime. We reject the tracking of citizens who do nothing more than protest a misguided war. We reject torture. We reject sweeping claims of "inherent" presidential power. We will revisit the Patriot Act and overturn…

That's part of the reason I spend every political conversation discussing the merits of a multiparty (not biparty) system.

Pretty sure I've convinced at least a handful of people to vote Gary Johnson as a protest vote. Though personally I'm all about that #Snowden2016

Re: NSA tracking cellphone locations worldwide, Snowden documents show (2013)

#84

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and then what? Declare war on the US?

Of course not. The point is to have a strong BATNA, as negotiations people put it. The USA is actually a great example of this principle. Their military spending is the biggest in the world. What for? Do they intend to eradicate all other nations so that only Americans remain? I hope not. More probably, they spend all these resources because they don't like it when other nations tell them what to do.

I think our military power has evolved from the post war arms race into a pro-trade insurance policy.

Re: NSA tracking cellphone locations worldwide, Snowden documents show (2013)

#85
post #61

Man I will forever be grateful for the eye opening insights Snowden has provided to us. I now check for https and use tor and always block cookies. How is there not a monument in every city dedicated to this hero?

So you think using any of that protects you from the Chinese, KGB, etc.? Did you forget to block localStorage, too?

The KGB ceased to exist in 1991 with the break-up of the Soviet Union, a full three years before HTTPS was invented.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KGB

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTPS

Re: NSA tracking cellphone locations worldwide, Snowden documents show (2013)

#86
post #61

Man I will forever be grateful for the eye opening insights Snowden has provided to us. I now check for https and use tor and always block cookies. How is there not a monument in every city dedicated to this hero?

So you think using any of that protects you from the Chinese, KGB, etc.? Did you forget to block localStorage, too?

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Re: NSA tracking cellphone locations worldwide, Snowden documents show (2013)

#87

So now they can detect the location of the "target" and send a drone to kill them from the convenience of their office, before going on lunch break. This really sickens me. They are inferring so much and therefore many innocent people are and will suffer. To me this system is pure evil however much the nsa try to sugar coat or spin it. Who gave them the right to do this, to track people around the world and in many c…

The people they kill are those who have killed others. Quit pretending they are innocents just minding their own business.

Killing someone because they killed someone is an infinite loop.

Re: NSA tracking cellphone locations worldwide, Snowden documents show (2013)

#88
post #69

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I feel the same about the KGB and China's spy agencies. How come I have no say in how they operate?

KGB doesn't exist for more than 25 years. Checking your facts would be a first step, i guess.

That doesn't matter and totally misses the point.

Re: NSA tracking cellphone locations worldwide, Snowden documents show (2013)

#89

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I feel the same about the KGB and China's spy agencies. How come I have no say in how they operate?

The KGB and spy agencies of old used to need to assign agents to sit outside your house to watch you. The NSA is a different breed of agency, who can now record whatever everyone reads, hears or says and keep these records almost forever.

Has nothing to do with my point.

Re: NSA tracking cellphone locations worldwide, Snowden documents show (2013)

#90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The people they kill are those who have killed others. Quit pretending they are innocents just minding their own business.

Educate yourself: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/civilian-deaths-drone-st...

And when the twin towers fell in NYC, were there any innocents involved?
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