Announcing .NET Core 1.0 • Hacker News Board

pjmlp wrote: post #143

daveguy wrote: post #67

FYI, from the announcement. Probably the most important part at the end, italicized by me. Also note (elsewhere) that licenses are MIT and Apache2: .NET Core Tools Telemetry The .NET Core tools include a telemetry feature so that we can collect usage information about the .NET Core Tools. It’s important that we understand how the tools are being used so that we can improve them. Part of the reason the tools are in Pr…

So it is bad when Microsoft asks to do it, but ok when Eclipse, Netbeans or InteliJ do it? They are being quite open about it and how to turn it off.

Yes. It's bad when Microsoft does it this way because it's opt-out. IntelliJ/Android Studio prompts you and asks you your preference first. I think Eclipse is opt-in but could be mistaken.

Re: Announcing .NET Core 1.0

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Jun 27, 2016, 7:57 PM UTC

pjmlp wrote: post #143

daveguy wrote: post #67

FYI, from the announcement. Probably the most important part at the end, italicized by me. Also note (elsewhere) that licenses are MIT and Apache2: .NET Core Tools Telemetry The .NET Core tools include a telemetry feature so that we can collect usage information about the .NET Core Tools. It’s important that we understand how the tools are being used so that we can improve them. Part of the reason the tools are in Pr…

So it is bad when Microsoft asks to do it, but ok when Eclipse, Netbeans or InteliJ do it? They are being quite open about it and how to turn it off.

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Re: Announcing .NET Core 1.0

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Post by montyedwards » Mon, Jun 27, 2016, 8:02 PM UTC

sailingparrot wrote: post #170

montyedwards wrote: post #29

I don't see mention of FreeBSD anywhere in the .NET Core 1.0 announcements -- has official support for FreeBSD dropped or been postponed?

* FreeBSD is listed on CoreCLR GitHub repo ( https://github.com/dotnet/coreclr ). See current build status here: http://dotnet-ci.cloudapp.net/job/dotnet_coreclr/job/master/... * Also, see doc here (last updated in feb though): https://github.com/dotnet/coreclr/blob/master/Documentation/... * Laslty, FreeBSD arrived on azure last week, so it would be quite surprising if support was dropped.

I understand, but none of those links are the .NET Core 1.0 release announcements.

And the download page for .NET Core 1.0 doesn't mention FreeBSD at https://www.microsoft.com/net/download#core

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Post by niba » Mon, Jun 27, 2016, 8:04 PM UTC

ngrilly wrote: post #154

A few years ago, I wouldn't have thought I would write this, but it looks like Microsoft is definitely changing, for the best! Two questions: - Does .NET Core offers something similar to Go goroutines or Erlang "lightweight" processes? - And something similar to gofmt?

1. https://github.com/dotnet/orleans, here is an article about it http://thenewstack.io/project-orleans-different-than-erlang-...

2. https://github.com/dotnet/codeformatter

Re: Announcing .NET Core 1.0

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Post by 4684499 » Mon, Jun 27, 2016, 8:05 PM UTC

daveguy wrote: post #67

FYI, from the announcement. Probably the most important part at the end, italicized by me. Also note (elsewhere) that licenses are MIT and Apache2: .NET Core Tools Telemetry The .NET Core tools include a telemetry feature so that we can collect usage information about the .NET Core Tools. It’s important that we understand how the tools are being used so that we can improve them. Part of the reason the tools are in Pr…

I simply don't want to be tracked in any form regardless of whether it collects my personal data. Yet it seems more and more impossible these days. It's like "If there's nothing about collecting your personal data, then you should compromise".

Re: Announcing .NET Core 1.0

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Post by ohitsdom » Mon, Jun 27, 2016, 8:07 PM UTC

jobigoud wrote: post #169

wvenable wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft is looking to do more data-driven design; this is the reason for all the telemetry in Windows as well. Raymond Chen pointed out an example where a button was removed File Explorer (prime real-estate) because the telemetry showed that hardly anyone ever pressed it. It's unfortunate they are so tone-deaf about the PR implications in Windows.

> a button was removed from File Explorer Would that be the "Go up to the parent directory" button that was removed in 7 by any chance?

Easily my favorite button in file explorer.

Re: Announcing .NET Core 1.0

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Post by dimgl » Mon, Jun 27, 2016, 8:09 PM UTC

mantenpanther wrote: post #132

I've mixed feelings about this release, because it seems a bit early to me. Some fundamentals will change soon (project.json replacement) and I am still not able to get debugging to work in VS Code on OSX. The whole situation in the .NET Core space was very confusing for the last months and this trend seems to continue. This is sad, because I'd love to code in C# on any platform and that things would just work as adv…

It's still extremely buggy. Very difficult to get a .NET MVC app up and running (they're not using the term WebAPI anymore).

Re: Announcing .NET Core 1.0

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Post by leecow » Mon, Jun 27, 2016, 8:16 PM UTC

jsingleton wrote: post #58

donatj wrote: post #26

I'm receiving > “dotnet-dev-osx-x64.1.0.0-preview2-003121.pkg” can’t be opened because it is from an unidentified developer." I know full well how to get around this, but it makes me suspicious of what I've downloaded. Would Microsoft have truly missed this?

It is annoying. The preview MSIs are signed but the preview PKGs are not. The last release was so maybe it just takes some time? BTW you can ctrl-click/right-click the installer package and select open to get the option to run it without fully disabling gatekeeper. [ https://github.com/dotnet/cli/issues/3434 ]

Hey folks, sorry for the inconvenience around PKG signing. We're working on it right now and should have things updated soon.

Lee [.NET PM]

Re: Announcing .NET Core 1.0

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Post by mikevm » Mon, Jun 27, 2016, 8:23 PM UTC

What is the licensing like if you're a vendor and you want to ship software based on .NET Core on your own hardware appliances? Can you redistribute the runtime, or do you have to pay?