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Re: Introducing Soylent 1.6 Powder

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Post by mjklin »

cisstrd wrote: post #22

I will comment on Soylent as a product, not the 1.6 update specifically, sorry, just want to make a few points (I think some of you are in for a tough ride, just passionate, not my intention to attack anyone personally): -) psychological value: eating has a great psychological value, it's pleasure (if not, you should eat better food) -) social value: you probably won't go out with friends to have a glass of Soylent,…

To me the appeal of Soylent is this: most men are problem solvers. There is a problem that comes up several times a day called "What do I do about hunger?". There are dozens of ways you might solve that problem, but if you are just not interested then having a bottle of Soylent on hand solves it for you handily.

Re: Introducing Soylent 1.6 Powder

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Post by raisedbyninjas »

deegles wrote: post #50
gnoway wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I quit buying the powder earlier this year, but never considered the drink. I don't want to be tossing a bunch of empty bottles or paying to ship a liquid; it's honestly a little weird that they are prioritizing all this sustainable food stuff but want to truck a prepared liquid to me. The liquid does (or did, not sure now) cost more per kcal and comes in 400kcal bottles, so I would want 4-5 a day; they ship in 12 pa…

I thought about this, but all the food you eat was trucked to a distribution center, then trucked to the store, then driven home by you. There’s lots of packaging involved there too. Meanwhile a shipment of soylent goes straight to you, cutting out all those middlemen. I'd be interested to see if someone has done the analysis to see if 2000kcal of soylent uses less resources to ship than the same amount of calories f…

It may use less than legacy solid foods, but it's significantly less efficient than powder in bags. With that said, bottled Soylent is much more convenient. I'm hopeful that they will improve the powder packaging and composition to make preparation easier.

Re: Introducing Soylent 1.6 Powder

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Post by noir_lord »

eltoozero wrote: post #61
bfstein wrote: post #12

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Why not just get protein powder? EDIT: Alternatively, you could go on http://blendrunner.com/ which gives a comparison of the various meal-replacement drinks out there.

Standard protein powder is usually animal protein which even if you're not a vegetarian is kinda gross.

If you aren't a vegetarian why would be it be 'kinda gross' in fact even if you are.

Protein powder is mostly whey, which is a milk component and most vegetarians eat dairy.

Re: Introducing Soylent 1.6 Powder

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Post by mytochar »

calebsurfs wrote: post #19

Does soylent include creatine? Its not an essential nutrient but if a human exercises a lot and does not eat meat, creatine levels can get very low. This leads to a lack of energy both mental and physical. Studies have shown [0] improved mental performance in vegans when supplemented with creatine. https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evolutionary-psychiatry...

It also doesn't have near enough protein for someone who is actively working out, so they're going to need to supplement it, too:

People that don't tend to work out need around 0.8g / kg; but, people that do work out tend to need 1.2-1.4g / kg a day.[1]

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/414351

Re: Introducing Soylent 1.6 Powder

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Post by burfog »

pbreit wrote: post #14
flogic wrote: post #8

I would really like a version of Soylent that doesn't use sucralose. That stuff leaves a nasty aftertaste.

Yeah, I can't believe they're stuck on that. Surely there's gotta be something better? Stevia? Monk fruit? The -tol's? Honey?

How about sugar of lead? It's 100x as sweet as sugar. It was popular with the Romans, who made it from storing wine in lead. It's cheap too.

Re: Introducing Soylent 1.6 Powder

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Post by xiaoma »

GrumpyYoungMan wrote: post #69
cisstrd wrote: post #44

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I am going by how they market it, not by how you use it. If company makes market claim "x", which is ridiculous and I criticize that claim, someone then saying that he personally hasn't bought it because of claim "x" does not make my point invalid at all. 1) We differ there, I can well get all of my calories from normal food without being annoyed by eating. 2) But it's marketed as complete food replacement, not as a…

>Have we all forgotten how to deal with real food?! Apparently, yes. "The dream of all these companies is to capture the all-powerful and elusive millennial eater, who just isn’t all that into cereal for breakfast. It’s just too much work, for one thing. Almost 40 percent of the millennials surveyed by Mintel for its 2015 report said cereal was an inconvenient breakfast choice because they had to clean up after eatin…

Wow... and I thought cereal was the lazy option.

Re: Introducing Soylent 1.6 Powder

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Post by LA_Banker »

mytochar wrote: post #74
calebsurfs wrote: post #19

Does soylent include creatine? Its not an essential nutrient but if a human exercises a lot and does not eat meat, creatine levels can get very low. This leads to a lack of energy both mental and physical. Studies have shown [0] improved mental performance in vegans when supplemented with creatine. https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/evolutionary-psychiatry...

It also doesn't have near enough protein for someone who is actively working out, so they're going to need to supplement it, too: People that don't tend to work out need around 0.8g / kg; but, people that do work out tend to need 1.2-1.4g / kg a day.[1] http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/414351

Precisely. I get the appeal of Soylent (quick meal replacement when otherwise obtaining food would be too big a distraction), but I don't get the appeal over meal replacement protein powders – many of which already taste better, have more protein, and are cheaper than Soylent.

Re: Introducing Soylent 1.6 Powder

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Post by oopsies49 »

xiaoma wrote: post #76
GrumpyYoungMan wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Have we all forgotten how to deal with real food?! Apparently, yes. "The dream of all these companies is to capture the all-powerful and elusive millennial eater, who just isn’t all that into cereal for breakfast. It’s just too much work, for one thing. Almost 40 percent of the millennials surveyed by Mintel for its 2015 report said cereal was an inconvenient breakfast choice because they had to clean up after eatin…

Wow... and I thought cereal was the lazy option.

Soylent powder isn't that clean anyway. It's much easier to wash a bowl than to clean your counter and scoop after making a Soylent meal.

Re: Introducing Soylent 1.6 Powder

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Post by soylent_comment »

MertsA wrote: post #36
mkolodny wrote: post #20

I've stopped drinking Soylent since I found out that it contains more than the recommended amount of soy in a single meal. Excess soy has been found to "feminize" men [1]. It also "may cause some reversible sexual disruption in men". Researchers decided the safe amount of soy (isoflavones) in a single day is 75mg [2]. If you drink Soylent as one of three meals in a day, Soylent contains about 87mg (52mg * 5 bottles /…

I've seen tons and tons of people pointing out that soy contains phytoestrogens but I've never seen a single study that showed that it had any significant effect on an adult male. I have seen studies that have shown no statistical difference between a diet high in phytoestrogens and a normal diet. Here's the abstract of an examination of 9 different clinical studies on the topic: http://www.fertstert.org/article/S001…

Soy can "feminize" in some men. It probably requires some kind of predisposition, but it's not a conspiracy theory.

There are several case reports out there now. I remember reading about an Australian guy who was otherwise healthy, with no prior hormonal issues.

For what it's worth, it also happened to me. When I was 20 or 21, I developed a taste for soy burgers & started eating them every day.

I quickly developed breast tissue under both nipples. When I realized what was happening, I cut out the soy & most of the tissue atrophied.

Same thing happened to my brother years later, from protein powder. I tried to warn him but he didn't believe me.

It's a thing, it happens.

Re: Introducing Soylent 1.6 Powder

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Post by pbreit »

burfog wrote: post #75
pbreit wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, I can't believe they're stuck on that. Surely there's gotta be something better? Stevia? Monk fruit? The -tol's? Honey?

How about sugar of lead? It's 100x as sweet as sugar. It was popular with the Romans, who made it from storing wine in lead. It's cheap too.

And actually toxic!
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