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C14 – Cheap, secure long term cloud storage

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Re: C14 – Cheap, secure long term cloud storage

#32
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

sounds similar to backblaze... though they use XFS (IIRC) for their file system, but do the RAID type stuff themselves...

You're right about their cross-rack RAID-like stack, but didn't Backblaze switch to ext4 in the meantime?

possibly... cant see anything about it on storage pod 6 [1] but i do remember mentioning a file system, i just though it was XFS...

[1]: https://www.backblaze.com/blog/open-source-data-storage-serv...

Re: C14 – Cheap, secure long term cloud storage

#34
post #19

tl;dr: a cheap data archival solution; upload is free, storage is cheap (€0.002 / GB / mo), download is somewhat less cheap (€0.01 / GB) and not instant; rsync / sftp IS supported for upload, but an API call is needed to complete the operation. Seems great for redundant regular backups that you hope to never restore from, but would like to keep just in case. (EDITED: previously incorrectly stated that rsync and sftp…

> send [...] using FTP, SFTP, Rsync or SCP,

and upload and download are both free, operations (archiving/unarchiving?, et al) are not

Unless they changed it in the space of 16 minutes, I think you might of wanted to give a closer look for making your tl;dr

Re: C14 – Cheap, secure long term cloud storage

#36

Any different than Backblaze B2? Seems that B2 is still cheaper and more mature.

B2 has a file limit of 5GB. No thanks. What's with the downvotes? Here: "A file contains a sequence of bytes. Any file on your computer can be uploaded to B2 and stored in a Cloud Storage, as long as it's not too big. Files can range in size from 0 bytes to 5 billion bytes. " https://www.backblaze.com/b2/docs/files.html

https://www.backblaze.com/b2/docs/large_files.html

Re: C14 – Cheap, secure long term cloud storage

#37

It's nice that the customer actually gets to control the encryption key. I'm not too knowledgeable on secure cloud storage systems, but from what I've heard about other cloud storage systems that encrypt files, it's typically the cloud hoster who controls the keys.

On "other cloud storage systems", nothing is stopping you from encrypting your files before uploading them.

This is exactly what I do for personal files that I upload to S3/Glacier for archival purposes -- they are GPG encrypted before ever being transmitted.

Re: C14 – Cheap, secure long term cloud storage

#38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

B2 has a file limit of 5GB. No thanks. What's with the downvotes? Here: "A file contains a sequence of bytes. Any file on your computer can be uploaded to B2 and stored in a Cloud Storage, as long as it's not too big. Files can range in size from 0 bytes to 5 billion bytes. " https://www.backblaze.com/b2/docs/files.html

https://www.backblaze.com/b2/docs/large_files.html

Thanks. I was using rclone last time to upload files and that's when I had hit the file limit. So I googled and found the link I provided in my comment. It appears that rclone does not support large file upload! hm...

EDIT: Actually it's in progress: https://github.com/ncw/rclone/issues/456

EDIT2: It is actually already implemented in v1.30!

Re: C14 – Cheap, secure long term cloud storage

#40
post #28

Why is regular FTP even supported for so called secure storage? So far it reads as secure 'because we say it is secure'? I find the whole idea of putting your data on hardware other control and still consider it 'secure' a bit strange. Though that might be just my twisted mind. Also note they charge for internal traffic (and im not sure if you can measure these yourself to make sure the invoice is correct.): "An oper…

the FTP is actually TLS enabled Mik (Online.net staff)

so why not say FTPS?
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