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Re: Defending Our Brand

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Post by morganvachon »

lukeholder wrote: post #232
chasb wrote: post #12

Well done Comodo, this motivated me to donate to Let's Encrypt. https://letsencrypt.org/donate/

I also just donated, and commenting here to encourage others to do the same.

I donated as well, and this is why:

  We're making it possible for everyone to experience a secure and privacy-respecting Web.

  We make it easy to get certificates for HTTPS, because ease of use is critical for adoption.

  We provide certificates free of charge, because cost excludes people.

  Our certificates are available in every country in the world, because the secure Web is for everyone.

  We strive to be open and transparent, because these values are essential for trust.[1]
When I read that on Let's Encrypt's website, compared to the immature drivel the Comodo CEO wrote, it is obvious who the "good guys" are here.

[1] https://letsencrypt.org/donate/

Re: Defending Our Brand

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Post by waterphone »

mpclark wrote: post #23
CommanderData wrote: post #11

Learning this, I will not renew my certs with Comodo. This is childish behaviour on Comodos part. If it helps I'll advise any companies I consult to do the same until this changes. Money is the only thing this company will understand.

Turns out I have a Comodo cert expiring soon. Let's see if they do the right thing before I do...

I had one just about to expire, and this was my motivation to switch over to Let's Encrypt.

Re: Defending Our Brand

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Post by nailer »

jakobegger wrote: post #226
nailer wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> EV certs can't be automated No entirely, but mostly: seeing as this is my job, I should have some idea. Currently writing a post about how we've used some psych techniques to automate the non-automatable parts which I'll post on HN. > (and they're a dumb idea anyway) EV matches identity to public keys. Nothing more, nothing less. If you need EV, we ( https://certsimple.com ) specialise in making those background ch…

I can't find pricing on your website. There's a page called 'pricing' that says I can find pricing on the home page. When I click the link, I find a lot of marketing text, but no pricing.

It's right underneath the 'Domain names' box, in to USD / GBP / EUR based on country (which is in turn based on your IP location).

Re: Defending Our Brand

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Post by privong »

yvesmh wrote: post #132
privong wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I hover over the green lock it says: "Verified by: IdenTrust".

He probably meant Hacker News, just checked and HN is verified by Comodo and LetsEncrypt by IdenTrust.

> He probably meant Hacker News, just checked and HN is verified by Comodo and LetsEncrypt by IdenTrust.

Gotcha. Yeah, I thought they meant the LetsEncrypt page.

Re: Defending Our Brand

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Post by storrgie »

chasb wrote: post #12

Well done Comodo, this motivated me to donate to Let's Encrypt. https://letsencrypt.org/donate/

I donated, not because they provide an awesome service for free... but because they stand to break up something that's really nasty in the crux of our internet.

Re: Defending Our Brand

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Post by seandougall »

smoyer wrote: post #184
grellas wrote: post #179

The points made by ISRG seem well-taken and, if there is a formal fight over this, it should prevail given the facts as it recites them. There is a general lesson here for startups as well. If you have an important mark, do consider doing an intent-to-use (ITU) application earlier rather than later to prevent poaching of the mark by others. If you haven't actually used the mark in commerce (e.g., if you are in pure d…

There's a second lesson for start-ups - if you can't buy or develop goodwill with your customers, just steal it from someone else. My experience(s) with Comodo have been well short of awe-inspiring and their reputation certainly isn't great - to me, this is just another mark against them.

Indeed. I recently had my first two experiences acquiring and installing certificates, the first from Comodo and the second from Let's Encrypt. Comodo took two weeks of repeated attempts over multiple validation methods to get the damn thing issued. Let's Encrypt took less than a minute, even on a platform that doesn't officially support it.

It seems Comodo is obviously lashing out because the only value their service provides is the (ultimately artificial) trust in their CA. And now there's a new player on the scene that not only is free, but provides more value in terms of ease of use and just as much trust.

Re: Defending Our Brand

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Post by beachy »

pcora wrote: post #7

The worst possible move by a competitor. Not cool Comodo.

Maybe also one of the stupidest. Comodo are really raising up LetsEncrypt in the eyes of the community, as well as sullying their own brand, by being such dicks, and being so obviously in the wrong.

And when they lose, as it sounds they will, they'll leave the LetsEncrypt brand all the more valuable than before.

Re: Defending Our Brand

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Post by nojvek »

NelsonMinar wrote: post #135

Comodo is not a trustworthy security company. Their browser extensions break browser security: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11021633 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9091917 They issued fraudulent SSL certificates in 2011: https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2011/03/comodo_group_...

If their not security worthy can't the browsers just Barr them? There should be a nice democratic way of punishing the abusive behaviors.

Re: Defending Our Brand

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Post by nojvek »

wigam wrote: post #207
giancarlostoro wrote: post #203

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just how many use Comodo, and why isn't there some sort of movement pushing against Comodo? Hopefully if they lose business or start to they will think twice and attempt to restructure everything.

Hacker news uses Comodo as their CA.

At least hn should switch to letsencrypt after the douchebaggery from comodo.
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