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Re: Defending Our Brand

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Post by giancarlostoro »

mwambua wrote: post #163
7UenehWG wrote: post #155

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It's not humor-policing to point out that HN has a different culture and comments serve a different purpose here. I like pun threads - but I go to /r/jokes when I want them. Here, I expect a certain sort of signal - insight from experienced and intelligent people working hard on interesting technical problems. This isn't to say that humor should be verboten, or pun threads strictly banned - but they're definitely not…

I don't want to be petty... but your comment would have a lot more weight if you made it with your primary account. That said, I agree with all your points... but we're humans... Even if most of our time is spent on science, we still get amused by the most silly of things; and if those things help support LetsEncrypt... Hurrah!

I'm assuming they don't have a primary, or they rather avoid the downvotes that people give without actually giving any actual feedback.

Re: Defending Our Brand

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Post by sandGorgon »

CommanderData wrote: post #11

Learning this, I will not renew my certs with Comodo. This is childish behaviour on Comodos part. If it helps I'll advise any companies I consult to do the same until this changes. Money is the only thing this company will understand.

go with rapidssl - because we use docker and bake our certificates into our vms, we find it hard to use letsencrypt. but we have been very happy with rapidssl (even using it on our apis that serve legacy android devices)

Re: Defending Our Brand

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Post by giancarlostoro »

zymhan wrote: post #178
csense wrote: post #170

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If they're not trustworthy, let's remove them from the trusted CA lists of major FOSS browsers / distros. Anyone know the proper mailing list / bugtracker this should be filed on in the case of Firefox?

While a worthy cause, Firefox would be utterly broken if Comodo was no longer a trusted CA.

Just how many use Comodo, and why isn't there some sort of movement pushing against Comodo? Hopefully if they lose business or start to they will think twice and attempt to restructure everything.

Re: Defending Our Brand

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Post by dang »

davesque wrote: post #197
oldmanjay wrote: post #188

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HN has a culture of pointing out that obvious, boring jokes have no place here. There's a constant struggle by people to introduce them, but (amongst others) those of us who watched Slashdot flush itself down the toilet of shitty humor are going to police the site because it's what we want.

Isn't it fair to say that the field of computer science has (up until recently, apparently) distinguished itself with its corny humor, dorkiness, and resulting sense of humility? I feel like puns and bad jokes had generally been a special part of the culture of early technologists. It's a little sad to see that give way to a kind of self-important seriousness.

Don't be sad. The one context doesn't really apply to the other because these communities are so different in size and cohesion.

It isn't a question of humor, but of stock humor, which grows like crabgrass on the internet and quickly takes over. I think scott_s got it right years ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7609289. Humor that clears the signal/noise threshold does fine here.

Re: Defending Our Brand

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Post by pfg »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #203
zymhan wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While a worthy cause, Firefox would be utterly broken if Comodo was no longer a trusted CA.

Just how many use Comodo, and why isn't there some sort of movement pushing against Comodo? Hopefully if they lose business or start to they will think twice and attempt to restructure everything.

CloudFlare uses them for Universal SSL, so that's roughly 5% of all websites[1]. Their overall market share (in the CA business) appears to be around 40%[2].

[1]: https://w3techs.com/technologies/details/cn-cloudflare/all/a...

[2]: https://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/ssl_certificate/al...

Re: Defending Our Brand

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Post by wigam »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #203
zymhan wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While a worthy cause, Firefox would be utterly broken if Comodo was no longer a trusted CA.

Just how many use Comodo, and why isn't there some sort of movement pushing against Comodo? Hopefully if they lose business or start to they will think twice and attempt to restructure everything.

Hacker news uses Comodo as their CA.

Re: Defending Our Brand

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Post by giancarlostoro »

pfg wrote: post #206
giancarlostoro wrote: post #203

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just how many use Comodo, and why isn't there some sort of movement pushing against Comodo? Hopefully if they lose business or start to they will think twice and attempt to restructure everything.

CloudFlare uses them for Universal SSL, so that's roughly 5% of all websites[1]. Their overall market share (in the CA business) appears to be around 40%[2]. [1]: https://w3techs.com/technologies/details/cn-cloudflare/all/a... [2]: https://w3techs.com/technologies/overview/ssl_certificate/al...

Oh, CloudFlare uses them. That's quite a market share. It is sad that they have such a bad reputation... Hopefully someone buys them out who restructures them or something....

Re: Defending Our Brand

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Post by giancarlostoro »

wigam wrote: post #207
giancarlostoro wrote: post #203

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just how many use Comodo, and why isn't there some sort of movement pushing against Comodo? Hopefully if they lose business or start to they will think twice and attempt to restructure everything.

Hacker news uses Comodo as their CA.

I didn't even notice. I guess they're a bigger fish than I ever realized.
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