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Defending Our Brand

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Re: Defending Our Brand

#231
The CEO of Comodo has apparently replied on a Comodo forum, and boy, it's a doozy. https://forums.comodo.com/general-discussion-off-topic-anyth...

> Isn't this why we have Trademark laws and courts? If they have right to it then more than happy to comply. But these kind of Intellectual copyrights can't be decided over a forum post or twitter account or trying to get your loyal but "blind" followers to bully another enterprise via their tweets. It won't work! This is not wild west and there are legal framework and courts for these kind of disputes. So lets all stop being the judge and jury and follow the law!

> One a separate note, since we are talking about protecting intellectual property, there is no law protecting business models. When Lets Encrypt copied Comodo's 90 day free ssl business model, we could not protect it. Lets encrypt could have chosen 57 days, 30 days or any other number for the lifetime of their certificates. But they chose to use Comodo's 90 day Free SSL model that we established in the market place for over 9 years!!! We invented the 90 day free ssl. Why are they copying our business model of 90 day free ssl is the question! Comodo has provided and built a Free SSL model that give SSL for free for 90 days since 2007! Trying to piggy back on our business model and copying our model of giving certificates for 90 days for free is not ethical. They clearly wanted to leverage the market of Free SSL users we had helped create and establish and that's why they created exactly same 90 day free ssl offering. So why did they choose 90 day????? That is the question!

> What they have is nothing new. We have been giving 90 day free certificates since 2007. Unlike them, our certificates are managed, even the free ones, so that consumers are protected. If a certificate is being used maliciously we revoke it. They don't! How is that making internet safer??? Actually consumer are less safe with their certificate because if it is used maliciously they don't revoke (Unmanaged)!

> Lets get the facts right guys! We are the good guys that have been giving free SSL certificates since 2007 and managing them!

Re: Defending Our Brand

#233
post #231

The CEO of Comodo has apparently replied on a Comodo forum, and boy, it's a doozy. https://forums.comodo.com/general-discussion-off-topic-anyth... > Isn't this why we have Trademark laws and courts? If they have right to it then more than happy to comply. But these kind of Intellectual copyrights can't be decided over a forum post or twitter account or trying to get your loyal but "blind" followers to bully another e…

And this is why large companies rarely like (or sometimes even let) the CEO speak before it goes through a PR team.

Re: Defending Our Brand

#234
post #231

The CEO of Comodo has apparently replied on a Comodo forum, and boy, it's a doozy. https://forums.comodo.com/general-discussion-off-topic-anyth... > Isn't this why we have Trademark laws and courts? If they have right to it then more than happy to comply. But these kind of Intellectual copyrights can't be decided over a forum post or twitter account or trying to get your loyal but "blind" followers to bully another e…

He's not being malicious, just outright stupid.

Re: Defending Our Brand

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post #231

The CEO of Comodo has apparently replied on a Comodo forum, and boy, it's a doozy. https://forums.comodo.com/general-discussion-off-topic-anyth... > Isn't this why we have Trademark laws and courts? If they have right to it then more than happy to comply. But these kind of Intellectual copyrights can't be decided over a forum post or twitter account or trying to get your loyal but "blind" followers to bully another e…

Yes, I read that on the forum. So I guess he's straight up admitting that he has no legal ground to stand on.

Re: Defending Our Brand

#236

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not send them an short and direct email?

I'm sure their first tier customer service people don't care at all and will just delete the ticket.

You can tweet to the CEO directly here: https://twitter.com/melih_Comodo

Re: Defending Our Brand

#237
post #236

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure their first tier customer service people don't care at all and will just delete the ticket.

You can tweet to the CEO directly here: https://twitter.com/melih_Comodo

impressive that he doesn't follow anyone.

Re: Defending Our Brand

#239
US trademarks are easy to register.[1] The whole process is online and starts at $225. I hold several. You don't need a lawyer unless you're in some crowded area ("AAAAA Plumbing" would be a crowded area) or confusingly similar to an existing trademark.

There's no reason for a startup to not register a trademark.

[1] http://www.uspto.gov/trademarks-application-process/filing-o...

Re: Defending Our Brand

#240
post #43

Learning this, I will not renew my certs with Comodo. This is childish behaviour on Comodos part. If it helps I'll advise any companies I consult to do the same until this changes. Money is the only thing this company will understand.

Just curious, but do you think companies you consult care enough to switch? It's usually easier to just renew, and I wonder if consultants have the leverage to get customers to care.

They couldn't care if I mentioned it and I don't plan to. Renewals often involve just as much work as installing a new cert. This is more about personal recommendations, after I recommend its normally accepted without question.
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