Results of Rust Survey 2016 – early draft for internal usage

Post by epoch1970 » Thu, Jun 23, 2016, 11:37 AM UTC

kushti wrote: post #33

eximius wrote: post #6

Hmmm. That 20% of Rust users identify as part of an 'underrepresented group' does not seem like poor number. I would naively guess that it is a larger percentage than exists in the overall technical population. If that's correct, then bravo Rust! (If anyone knows about numbers along those lines, I'd love to hear about it.)

This part of survey is really weird and full of American racist bigotry. What does "Person of color" mean considering people all around the globe? In Africa or India whites are super-minorities so should they vote as "persons of color"?

Post by EugeneOZ » Thu, Jun 23, 2016, 11:46 AM UTC

viraptor wrote: post #48

willvarfar wrote: post #3

The first diagram shows that 35.5% of respondents don't use, or stopped using , rust. Its a shame they don't break this down between those who have never used it vs those who have stopped using it. At the end of the results there's talk about why those who don't use rust don't use it, but again it doesn't separate out why people have never used it vs why people have stopped using it. I imagine it would be a very inte…

I'd also like to see that. I'm in the "temporarily stopped using" camp. I love it, I got to the level where I don't fight the language anymore, but facing reality - I don't have a reason to use it. Everything I do at the moment, I can finish faster in Python and I know it's enough. (sysadmin / deployment / security tools) The moment I need good performance and safety (new protocol server?), I'll reach for Rust. But I…

Post by viraptor » Thu, Jun 23, 2016, 11:54 AM UTC

lbn wrote: post #49

viraptor wrote: post #45

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Hostile may be jumping to conclusions. It's a small number, and it's a self-selected sample. Small change in any of the numbers will result in big ratio change. Unless someone actually claims hostile behaviour, why expect it? Either way, the trans population is very much overrepresented in the survey. You took one of the sources from the link which claims 0.3%. The next source which I would trust (DSM-5 stats) claims…

The reason I said hostile is that in most discussions on Hacker News and Reddit a lot of people argue that the only reason women are so under-represented in tech is that all the guys are very hostile to women. This survey goes against that. For some reason they refuse to believe that some things are more interesting to women than men and vice versa.

Post by Manishearth » Thu, Jun 23, 2016, 11:55 AM UTC

akerro wrote: post #47

Manishearth wrote: post #28

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Thank you! I'd love to hear more about your experience, though perhaps once you have worked a bit more on the project :) Eh, early adoption is overrated -- you have to fight through lack of docs, lack of libraries, and general ecosystem issues, all while the language keeps changing underneath you :P (Note that not everyone who works on Rust; or even who worked on this survey, is a guy)

> I'd love to hear more about your experience I had good experience integrating glade (GTK GUI generator) to Rust, but bad experience with getting auto-complete working in Eclipse, in fact it's still not working ;) It's a pain when I using new technologies (both Rust and GTK are new to me). I want to change its state from `checked` to `unchecked`, and I don't know what's name of the method that does it, it can be set…

Post by qznc » Thu, Jun 23, 2016, 12:27 PM UTC

kevincox wrote: post #58

qznc wrote: post #11

> By large margin, users are often grabbing vim to do their Rust work in I would rather assume the reverse theory. Vim users are more likely to use new languages since they don't expect complex IDE support. Or maybe just: Early adopter and vim user correlates.

To be fair. With YouCompleteMe and rust-racer support the tooling for Rust in vim is solid.