Has anyone made a site yet detailing all of these horror stories? Paypal's behavior is unacceptable and needs to change, yet years later things still seem just as bad for their customers.
“PayPal has demanded that we monitor data traffic as well as customers’ files”
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#152Has anyone made a site yet detailing all of these horror stories? Paypal's behavior is unacceptable and needs to change, yet years later things still seem just as bad for their customers.
Yep, there's loads:
https://www.aboutpaypal.org/ http://www.paypalwarning.com/ http://www.screw-paypal.com/horror_stories/horror_stories.ht...
Some of the content is NSFW
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#153Earlier quoted context omitted.
Barclays and Natwest in the UK will allow you to send money to anyone with an email address. Anyone? Anyone in the UK? Or anyone in the UK with a Barclays or Natwest account? Paypal is still probably the quickest and easiest way to send money to 'anyone' in the world.
PayPal just seems like extra steps if your bank lets you do a straight transfer.
International bank transfers (at least to/from outside of Europe) are a massive pain, can take many days to clear and often cost quite a bit more than what PayPal charges.
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As a german that's not my experience at all. Credit cards aren't that common here and SEPA transfers are slow as hell and always a minor hassle, that I tend to avoid as long as I can. Without Paypal a lot of european customers wouldn't be able to buy from international vendors.
What about debit cards? I mean, you don't carry cash around all the time do you?
Of course not. Yes, in fact bank-issued debit cards are the default here.
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#155Earlier quoted context omitted.
EU Dropbox customers are the customers of Dropbox Ireland Limited (a company registered in Ireland), not Dropbox, Inc., a company registered in Delaware, so actually all of the EU regulations apply to their EU customers. Source: I'm a paying Dropbox customer living in the UK and my invoices are issued by Dropbox Ireland Limited.
But where is your data stored?
https://www.dropbox.com/privacy
Where Around the world. To provide you with the Services, we may store, process and transmit information in the United States and locations around the world - including those outside your country. Information may also be stored locally on the devices you use to access the Services.
Safe Harbor. Dropbox complies with the EU-U.S. and Swiss-U.S. Safe Harbor ("Safe Harbor") frameworks and principles. We have certified our compliance, and you can view our certifications here. You can learn more about Safe Harbor by visiting http://export.gov/safeharbor. JAMS is the independent organization responsible for reviewing and resolving complaints about our Safe Harbor compliance. We ask that you first submit any such complaints directly to us via privacy@dropbox.com. If you aren't satisfied with our response, please contact JAMS at http://www.jamsinternational.com/rules-procedures/safeharbor....
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#156It's time to share & spread information about PayPal's competitors:
What has your experience or market research yielded (stripe.com and paymill.de probably being the most obvious ones)?
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#157Earlier quoted context omitted.
As a german that's not my experience at all. Credit cards aren't that common here and SEPA transfers are slow as hell and always a minor hassle, that I tend to avoid as long as I can. Without Paypal a lot of european customers wouldn't be able to buy from international vendors.
As someone who sell stuff to Germans, could you please get a credit card? The only reason why we need to deal with PayPal is our German customer, 50% or more of our transactions in Germany is PayPal. It's a shitty company, with a shitty product.
Well, over here (in Germany) everyone gets a bank-issued debit card while a credit card usually comes with additional fees (I think it's 20-30€/year in my case, not sure right now). While it's not much, and I absolutely need a credit card for international purchases, a lot of fellow germans simply don't see the benefit when they could as well use the free debit card their bank gave them. And online their Paypal account is linked to their banking account which enables instant payments without credit cards.
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Having read during the last few years about the endless horror stories businesses have endured with PayPal, I honestly don't understand why anyone would still use PayPal when there clearly are alternatives (be that US companies like Stripe or EU companies like Paymill).
Because they're still anecdotal and for most people, PayPal works just fine. I find the stories horrifying, but I ran about 40,000 transactions through PayPal in the last 5-6 years and never had any problems. I guess this is how it is for most people, at least, I can use PayPal as a buyer on most online businesses I deal with.
Sure, using PayPal as a buyer is great as long as you never get into a dispute with a seller. It took about 4 months for me to get PayPal to refund my money when a seller on eBay ripped me off.
PayPal support was so inept they claimed that I had not returned the merchandise despite giving them the DHL tracking number and shipping receipt multiple times and eventually they closed my case in favor of the merchant.
I had to keep calling and harassing them and finally threatening to have the charges reversed by my credit card company when they suddenly reversed their decision.
I will never use PayPal for anything if I can avoid it.
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#159So, suprise suprise, my 6 years old blogpost continues to be spot on https://jeena.net/paypal that is when I deleted my PayPal account. But it was not all dance on roses after that, suprisingly many only offer PayPal as a way to pay them, so I always have to try to contact them and to try to explain and to ask for another way to pay. Most of the time they won't/can't help me.
look into bitcoin.
Sending money in an envelope would be easier and more accepted.
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#160faith in humanity restored