Doctors Without Borders doesn't take money from EU anymore

Post by ris » Sat, Jun 18, 2016, 12:09 PM UTC

panic wrote: post #45

CydeWeys wrote: post #42

A lot of the rapid shift in migration policy has been caused by the increasing prevalence of the view that a lot of refugees will never fit into "polite society". Reference the various sexual assaults across European countries by roving gangs of young men used to very different cultural mores who aren't assimilating culturally. If the choice comes down to protecting refugees or protecting your own society and the mor…

The vast majority of refugees aren't committing sexual assault. If you care about reducing sexual assault, supporting domestic violence shelters and education (e.g. programs like http://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/sexualviolence/prevent... ) would be much more effective than reducing immigration. Most sexual assault occurs between people who already know one another, not random foreign strangers.

Post by ris » Sat, Jun 18, 2016, 12:10 PM UTC

thecopy wrote: post #35

jlg23 wrote: post #32

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>> Most people coming to Europe are economic migrantw [sic] Source for that statement? > The reasonable thing to do would've been to differentiate refugees from others This is exactly what we are doing, but this requires actual checks, not just a look at a person's face.

It is reasonable to assume that if you enter Germany/Sweden it is not because you are fearing for your life in Austria/Denmark.

Post by k-mcgrady » Sat, Jun 18, 2016, 12:11 PM UTC

lumberjack wrote: post #51

k-mcgrady wrote: post #31

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>> "We make something good for our children and we -have- to share it with the whole world in our house?" You mean you got lucky to be born somewhere that isn't currently at war and now you feel entitled to what you were born into?

You could say literally the same thing about wealth. Are you saying people are not entitled to their wealth just because they happened to be born into it?

Post by Freestyler_3 » Sat, Jun 18, 2016, 12:12 PM UTC

cup wrote: post #40

Freestyler_3 wrote: post #27

I do not wish harm for any innocent people. If they want they can get what we have in their own country, they need to make that possible though, if needed with our help. (I think there should be more focus on taking care of refugees and the like in the region... or at least more in countries that support their culture) Only when really necessary we need to take refugees into europe for protection, usually those are p…

> If they want they can get what we have in their own country, they need to make that possible though. Oh trust me, they're trying. Western imperialism and colonialism has a habit of getting in the way though.

Post by lumberjack » Sat, Jun 18, 2016, 12:12 PM UTC

cup wrote: post #40

Freestyler_3 wrote: post #27

I do not wish harm for any innocent people. If they want they can get what we have in their own country, they need to make that possible though, if needed with our help. (I think there should be more focus on taking care of refugees and the like in the region... or at least more in countries that support their culture) Only when really necessary we need to take refugees into europe for protection, usually those are p…

> If they want they can get what we have in their own country, they need to make that possible though. Oh trust me, they're trying. Western imperialism and colonialism has a habit of getting in the way though.