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Russian Track and Field Team Barred from Rio Olympics

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Re: Russian Track and Field Team Barred from Rio Olympics

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Post by seanalltogether »

Russian athletes have been dropping like flies since the beginning of the year.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/10/sports/tennis/meldonium-ru...

http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/doping-scandal-sees-entire...

> The medication (Meldonium), which is manufactured by a single Latvian company named Grindeks. It helps improve exercise capacity in patients, as well as in healthy individuals and athletes. However, it is only available in the Russian Federation or the former Soviet Bloc nations such as Moldova, Ukraine, Belarus and Armenia.

Re: Russian Track and Field Team Barred from Rio Olympics

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Post by nostrebored »

tomp wrote: post #39
uptown wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then you're basically forcing athletes that don't want to dope to do-so in order to remain competitive. I don't think that's fair.

As opposed to forcing athletes that don't want to train to do-so in order to remain competitive?! In the end, sports competition have exactly 0 purpose in this world except for entertainment and personal feeling superiority.

It seems like somehow you've forgotten that athletes are people. And that athletes who are taking performance enhancing drugs face the adverse effects of these drugs.

Re: Russian Track and Field Team Barred from Rio Olympics

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Post by mladenkovacevic »

uptown wrote: post #23
mladenkovacevic wrote: post #22

Just make doping legal. Everyone does it with varying levels of sophistication. Russians got caught this time. EDIT: this post is more about me playing devil's advocate then my actual opinion. Olympics has become more about being the best evader of anti-doping procedure or using the "correct" enhancers then about actually making everyone not abuse ANY performance enhancers.

Then you're basically forcing athletes that don't want to dope to do-so in order to remain competitive. I don't think that's fair.

Well here they're also forcing innocent athletes to be barred from a competition because of corruption within the only athletics organization available to them.

An Olympic season is one of maybe 3 or 4 that some of these athletes have available to them to make their mark. Taking even one of those away from them can irreparably set back their career.

Re: Russian Track and Field Team Barred from Rio Olympics

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Post by [deleted] »

seanalltogether wrote: post #41

Russian athletes have been dropping like flies since the beginning of the year. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/10/sports/tennis/meldonium-ru... http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/doping-scandal-sees-entire... > The medication (Meldonium), which is manufactured by a single Latvian company named Grindeks. It helps improve exercise capacity in patients, as well as in healthy individuals and athletes. However, it is only…

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Re: Russian Track and Field Team Barred from Rio Olympics

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Post by ejcx »

This is interesting. Doping is really common in a lot of other sports too, weightlifting being the one I personally care about.

The IAAF banned Russia not the IOC. I don't like that this is being enforced inconsistently so I'm curious what the IOC will do. It doesn't make sense to me to ban Russia who was doping, and not the other countries who were doping, and not the other sports where Russia is doping.

I'm at a loss for what should be done about doping. Should it should be accepted, whether we should continue how we have it (you must at least try to cheat well), or whether we should become less strict. Because it's currently very easy to cheat depending on your country.

Re: Russian Track and Field Team Barred from Rio Olympics

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Post by CyrusL »

tlrobinson wrote: post #24
uptown wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then you're basically forcing athletes that don't want to dope to do-so in order to remain competitive. I don't think that's fair.

Have 2 different leagues or events or whatever, the naturals and the enhanced.

This exists in bodybuilding. The naturals are on more moderate steroid doses.

Re: Russian Track and Field Team Barred from Rio Olympics

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Post by shkkmo »

Pinwheeler wrote: post #33
tlrobinson wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have 2 different leagues or events or whatever, the naturals and the enhanced.

Should we then also make Adderal legal to be used at work?

Isn't it as long as you get a prescription?

Re: Russian Track and Field Team Barred from Rio Olympics

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Post by dang »

whatsamattayou wrote: post #20
School-Cotton wrote: post #4

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Track and field is the American English term for what you're calling "athletics".

Wrong. Track and Field are specific events on a running track, and include events on the field, like shotput and javelin. Obviously a millenial. I feel like I am wasting my time explaining it, when you could just look it up in a dictionary.

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Re: Russian Track and Field Team Barred from Rio Olympics

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Post by joveian »

nostrebored wrote: post #40
0xffff2 wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Replace "doping" with "training"... How is your argument changed?

Training doesn't have lifelong implications on mortality. If anything, remaining fit and active throughout your youth is probably a good thing. Sure there will be sports injuries, but those typically do not cause premature death.

Extreme exercise does have negative health effects. Here is one random discussion with some study links (found from a quick search):

http://www.drjohnm.org/2012/06/cw-its-settled-long-term-extr...

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