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Russian Track and Field Team Barred from Rio Olympics

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Re: Russian Track and Field Team Barred from Rio Olympics

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Post by jeswin »

mladenkovacevic wrote: post #22

Just make doping legal. Everyone does it with varying levels of sophistication. Russians got caught this time. EDIT: this post is more about me playing devil's advocate then my actual opinion. Olympics has become more about being the best evader of anti-doping procedure or using the "correct" enhancers then about actually making everyone not abuse ANY performance enhancers.

The problem with that is that you could take doping to dangerous extremes once legalised, and professional sport will become an unhealthy occupation as opposed to being inspirational for many around the world. Only those willing to sacrifice a normal healthy life for short term performance will win.

Re: Russian Track and Field Team Barred from Rio Olympics

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Post by blahi »

uptown wrote: post #23
mladenkovacevic wrote: post #22

Just make doping legal. Everyone does it with varying levels of sophistication. Russians got caught this time. EDIT: this post is more about me playing devil's advocate then my actual opinion. Olympics has become more about being the best evader of anti-doping procedure or using the "correct" enhancers then about actually making everyone not abuse ANY performance enhancers.

Then you're basically forcing athletes that don't want to dope to do-so in order to remain competitive. I don't think that's fair.

GP's point is that there are no athletes on this level who don't want to dope.

Re: Russian Track and Field Team Barred from Rio Olympics

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Post by Pinwheeler »

tlrobinson wrote: post #24
uptown wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then you're basically forcing athletes that don't want to dope to do-so in order to remain competitive. I don't think that's fair.

Have 2 different leagues or events or whatever, the naturals and the enhanced.

Should we then also make Adderal legal to be used at work?

Re: Russian Track and Field Team Barred from Rio Olympics

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Post by 0xffff2 »

uptown wrote: post #23
mladenkovacevic wrote: post #22

Just make doping legal. Everyone does it with varying levels of sophistication. Russians got caught this time. EDIT: this post is more about me playing devil's advocate then my actual opinion. Olympics has become more about being the best evader of anti-doping procedure or using the "correct" enhancers then about actually making everyone not abuse ANY performance enhancers.

Then you're basically forcing athletes that don't want to dope to do-so in order to remain competitive. I don't think that's fair.

Replace "doping" with "training"... How is your argument changed?

Re: Russian Track and Field Team Barred from Rio Olympics

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Post by LoSboccacc »

tlrobinson wrote: post #24
uptown wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then you're basically forcing athletes that don't want to dope to do-so in order to remain competitive. I don't think that's fair.

Have 2 different leagues or events or whatever, the naturals and the enhanced.

Aaaabd you're back to broblem no 1

Re: Russian Track and Field Team Barred from Rio Olympics

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Post by nostrebored »

tlrobinson wrote: post #24
uptown wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then you're basically forcing athletes that don't want to dope to do-so in order to remain competitive. I don't think that's fair.

Have 2 different leagues or events or whatever, the naturals and the enhanced.

People have shown that they'll just watch the one where people have higher performance. Not too many people care about the health of the athletes. Just take a look at football.

Also, I would prefer if we applied ethical considerations across the board.

We already see countries/coaches/teams pressing athletes to use performance enhancing drugs.

Re: Russian Track and Field Team Barred from Rio Olympics

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Post by phowat »

uptown wrote: post #23
mladenkovacevic wrote: post #22

Just make doping legal. Everyone does it with varying levels of sophistication. Russians got caught this time. EDIT: this post is more about me playing devil's advocate then my actual opinion. Olympics has become more about being the best evader of anti-doping procedure or using the "correct" enhancers then about actually making everyone not abuse ANY performance enhancers.

Then you're basically forcing athletes that don't want to dope to do-so in order to remain competitive. I don't think that's fair.

Any athlete aiming for an olympic medal right now is already basically forced to do-so to remain competitive.

Re: Russian Track and Field Team Barred from Rio Olympics

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Post by tomp »

uptown wrote: post #23
mladenkovacevic wrote: post #22

Just make doping legal. Everyone does it with varying levels of sophistication. Russians got caught this time. EDIT: this post is more about me playing devil's advocate then my actual opinion. Olympics has become more about being the best evader of anti-doping procedure or using the "correct" enhancers then about actually making everyone not abuse ANY performance enhancers.

Then you're basically forcing athletes that don't want to dope to do-so in order to remain competitive. I don't think that's fair.

As opposed to forcing athletes that don't want to train to do-so in order to remain competitive?!

In the end, sports competition have exactly 0 purpose in this world except for entertainment and personal feeling superiority.

Re: Russian Track and Field Team Barred from Rio Olympics

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Post by nostrebored »

0xffff2 wrote: post #34
uptown wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then you're basically forcing athletes that don't want to dope to do-so in order to remain competitive. I don't think that's fair.

Replace "doping" with "training"... How is your argument changed?

Training doesn't have lifelong implications on mortality. If anything, remaining fit and active throughout your youth is probably a good thing. Sure there will be sports injuries, but those typically do not cause premature death.
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