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It doesn't feel like an effective use of space; what is it about McDonald's that makes it a better focal point than a community center or a space built specifically as a gathering point for the community?
The article details exactly what it is that makes McDonalds better: 1. It's clean. 2. It's local. 3. It is welcoming. 4. There is no beauracracy.
In poor neighborhoods, McDonald’s have become de-facto community centers
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People finding community of some form is not just a good thing, it's an essential thing to human life. It should always be lauded. However, there is a lot of socioeconomic and sub-cultural in-group/out-group judgement in US society, all of which feels absolutely justified by those doing the judging. http://www.vox.com/2016/4/21/11451378/smug-american-liberali... In reality, it's all exactly the same sort of crap that…
> Knowing, for example, that the Founding Fathers were all secular deists. Knowing that you're actually, like, 30 times more likely to shoot yourself than an intruder. Knowing that those fools out in Kansas are voting against their own self-interest and that the trouble is Kansas doesn't know any better. Knowing all the jokes that signal this knowledge. Doesn't Vox exist to perpetuate this kind of nonsense? It's unde…
They seem like basic facts to me. Not even arguable.
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Sorry friend, but when you told a story about how you parent your kids, you put your parenting within the purview of the topic. There is nothing sacred about your parenting that makes it above scrutiny. Nothing whatsoever.
I'm not your friend, buddy. Also, I never told a story about how I parent my kids.
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This, from today, is another classic of the genre. A Guardian columnist walking round one of the UK's poorest districts bewildered that white working class people do not share his opinions on the European Union: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/video/2016/jun/14/l...
“Everyone’s entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts.” Smugness is certainly a fact, but so is that brexit will leave the UK economically worse off in pretty much all respects. Especially the poor.
Citation needed. But not those made-up by economists, pundits and bureaucrats making money by being pro-EU and working within EU organization and with EC money...
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S/He also ignores the time invested in cooking. What must your hourly wage be, for the $3 saved by cooking to be worthwhile?
Also, cooking for only one person seems to me to be more expensive, because the ingredients don't really come in the size for only one person.
The other issue I run into is that most of my food goes bad before I even finish it coupled with the fact I refuse to even have "leftovers". I either buy too little of what I need (smaller amounts/sizes) and end up spending more money for not purchasing bulk, or I waste money by throwing away surplus after it has expired. It's a fine balance to try and get "just the right amount". I often find myself throwing away 1/2 a loaf of bread, several meals worth of lunch meats, rotten fruits/vegetables, etc. And that's keeping some items a while after the "use by:" date...
An example of my problem:
1 gallon of milk is often too much. ½ a gallon of milk is often too little. It is cheaper (both economically and time spent going to the store) to buy 1 gallon of milk and dump it when it goes bad than to buy ½ a gallon as I need it.
Re: In poor neighborhoods, McDonald’s have become de-facto community centers
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Given you basically said "what could be worse than a cheeseburger, apple and chocolate milk?" here's an easier answer - swap the cheeseburger for a double cheeseburger. There's a nice simple example of "could be worse", for you, without even thinking about different menu items available. The apple: it's raw apple cut into slices... not fried, nor from a fictional bakery that their marketing apparently makes you think…
Sorry to disturb those dreams about fresh cut apple slices. They are not freshly cut, they are cutted and treated with chemicals in a factory, packed into plastic and might be lying around for up to two weeks before some parents give them their kids to alleviate their guilty conscience for taking their kids to a drug food shop. Same for the chocolate milk. But I leave it up to you to find out what great inventions of…
http://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en/food/product_nutrition.snacks...
> Ingredients: Apples, Calcium Ascorbate (a blend of Calcium and Vitamin C to maintain freshness and color).
Scary stuff! I guess the wax that is on apples at the grocery store is missing, but hey it still seems like real food to me.
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How often would you go without the stigma?
Do you feel good about berating someone on the internet for going to McDonald's ?
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It's really not hard to find a communal gathering spot a little more high-brow than McDonald's For example, I live in the suburbs of San Francisco. Not far from me there is a delightful and quaint organic bakery, and across from that is a gorgeous park. On weekends after my kids finish lacrosse practice, my wife and I take them there and enjoy some cheap ($9 each) chocolate croissants while they play on their tablets…
But you live in a San Francisco suburb. Try a small town in West Virginia or Alabama. It's very different.
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#340McDonalds is the only restaurant I enjoy eating at with my 2 and 3 year olds. Every other restaurant is a slog to get through the meal. Honestly I'd eat there more often if it weren't for the social stigma of it. (I live in Berkeley). I am pretty sure the cheeseburger, apple slices, and chocolate milk are not much worse, and probably better, than the typical fare on a slapped together kids meal. When I was a kid, my…
> There are some issues with McDonalds, but it is a pleasant user experience. That's interesting, given that McDonalds purposefully designs it's restaurants to get customers in and out as quick as possible. The chairs are hard, uncomfortable plastic, the music is annoying, and the dining room is always set to some arctic temperature.
I think your information is out of date.