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OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Huh? Apple lets me use my own email address, unlike say, Google.

Google lets you use your own email address. Not sure what the complaint here is.

If you also have an associated Gmail account it won't let you use another email address as the primary one.

That said I'm in some apple limbo land where I need to switch to an email address for iCloud but it won't let me use mine since I had a pre-email appleID. Yay.

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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I've been using Apple operating systems for most of my computing, since the Apple IIe. I started using OS X in 2001. Every since the release of 10.7, I have just been disappointed with their releases. Now that they are releasing major updates on a yearly press-release driven schedule, their quality has suffered. And their drive towards making the desktop more like iOS seems to cater more to non-technical consumers th…

We don't share the same memories of the 90's

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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The multimonitor support has fairly recently become passable. It's hard to imagine that it took more than a decade to do that. It used to be almost entirely useless. I think it's a case of overthinking it and trying not-to-be-windows that made it take so long. I'm not sure it's correct now, but at least it's useful. The Unix outdatedness is really annoying sometimes. I wouldn't even mind running some kind of big upda…

brew install . I have about 100 packages installed and haven't had a problem in months. Anything somewhat popular is updated within day. But I don't get the complaint about multiple screens either. It's always been plug in -> desktop extended. I wouldn't even know what to get wrong.

Only since maybe Yosemite has multi monitor support been what I'd call well modeled and decent. It's quite often been plug in -> useless grey screen on the other monitor you can't use, or some other nonsense. It took, what 3 entire revisions of the OS just for that not to happen? For a while, I had apps where I couldn't put different windows of the same app on different monitors, or one of the windows would randomly go away never to be seen again. Other apps would resize to 0,0 when disconnecting and then save the window position so I'd have to either reconnect to the same monitor I was no longer near, or uninstall, reinstall the app.

There was always weirdness about the dock and menu bar that's sort of now settling down, but the dock used to display all sorts of bizarreness, especially when it was set to autohide.

Fundamentally it came down to issues with Apple's way of thinking about workspaces, monitors, desktops, applications and windows. Even now I still have to spend far too much time hunting down things across multiple desktops and monitors. It seemed like Apple was dancing around what should probably just happen in an effort not to too closely mimic Microsoft.

But to get at the heart of it, what happens when you full-screen an app? Apple had no idea what that meant when it was launched in 2011. However, what Apple chose to do in the case of full-screening an app on multiple monitors made absolutely no sense and was absolutely useless: the app would take on the role in the hierarchy of a desktop, and the other monitor would go grey. Why? nobody outside of Apple knows, but it took until 2013/2014 to fix.

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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So effectively, it's only one step better than installing Cygwin on a Windows machine? Can someone please remind me again why the MacBook is such a preffered machine for software development? For years I've been told, " You get a shell! ", and " It's UNIX under the covers ", etc. Except that the shell userspace is antiquated, and the UNIX flavor is BSD rather than Linux. Meaning that I'm just as out-of-sync with my t…

I agree with most of your grumbles. > Can someone please remind me again why the MacBook is such a preffered machine for software development? For me, the greatest battery life and trackpad money can buy.

100x this. I actually could not imagine going back to mouse anymore.

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Will they update the unix layer? A lot of the CLI tools there are positively prehistoric. Maybe while they're at it they can add a real package manager too.

> Maybe while they're at it they can add a real package manager too. Contrary to those who suggested Brew, I stand by your request: de-installing anything that went in as a .pkg is a .pita and Apple doesn't provide, as best I can tell, any mechanism short of the author providing its own "Uninstall.app" to remove software. I've gotten very close by scripting some of the `pkgutil` output, but it's nowhere near `apt-get…

I think Apple's idea of a package manager is the App Store. Since they do not screw with /usr/local in any way stuff like brew and ports is a quite good alternative to a first party solution.

I just hope they will not start screwing with /usr/local

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Seriously, did Apple fire their OSX / macOS team? Pretty much all new features are spinoffs of their iOS infrastructure (Siri, handover, etc.) and the main OS development and innovation seems to have stalled. Not even a feature like telling software that you're on a metered connection and it shouldn't run backups! Is there anyone at Apple still working on innovating / improving OS X? Like people that tried to bring i…

Yes, Apple considers general purpose computers a legacy technology and more so a legacy business. Apple would much rather be in the locked down, small screen appliance business, i.e. computing devices made for techno-phobic user base.

But it may backfire spectacularly on them, since once they abandoned general purpose computers and server operating systems, their cloud services will/are suffering as a consequence.

Really, if you are a software developer not specifically developing for Apple platforms you are much better off building yourself a Linux system at this point.

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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post #324

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Google lets you use your own email address. Not sure what the complaint here is.

If you also have an associated Gmail account it won't let you use another email address as the primary one. That said I'm in some apple limbo land where I need to switch to an email address for iCloud but it won't let me use mine since I had a pre-email appleID. Yay.

What do you mean by primary?

You can't change your "username", but you can set it to send all correspondence, recovery, etc, to your non-gmail address.

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So essentially a big middle finger from Apple to anyone not attending the conference. Sigh.

Do you attend a lot of paid conferences that stream live for free in real time? That must be cool.

CCC does it

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Why would they touch GPLv3 code when perfectly good BSD tools available from FreeBSD?

If you're being serious here: bash is IMO the most glaringly old utility you get in an OSX install, and it's GPLv3.

Actually bash 3.2 is GPL v2.0. Later versions switched to GPL v3 and this is why Apple is not updating to newer version.

Give it a few more years and there will be no one left at Apple that has any clue what bash is.

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