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OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by rarepostinlurkr »

Symbiote wrote: post #135
nacs wrote: post #106

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Macbook sure, phone maybe, but why would your watch be in your backpack? Also, the watch automatically enters a locked state when its off your wrist.

Because the robber said "your Apple gadgets or your life!", and carried them away in the bag. Or, perhaps because you put in in the bag to go through airport security, and the bag was handed to someone else.

Your watch would be locked, being off your wrist.

Your phone is locked because its got TouchID enabled and a passcode.

Your laptop is locked as well. Getting in here requires you unlock something first, even if you have everything. The stronger security devices provide authentication to the weaker ones.

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by kylec »

tjl wrote: post #277
kylec wrote: post #268

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This is huge! I can understand that they wouldn't want to devote a lot of time to it, but I can't believe this wasn't even mentioned in the keynote. It is a developer conference after all.

They cover things like this in the "Developer State of the Union" which is the talk really focused at developers. That's later today.

Where can I stream that?

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Post by masklinn »

oblio wrote: post #111
Sanddancer wrote: post #85

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The GPLv3 has clauses in it that opens up a new load of legal questions for Apple that they'd rather avoid. I just wish that Apple would move to using less encumbered shell that is actively being developed, like pdksh or zsh.

If Microsoft is willing to ship GNU tools as a officially sanctioned extension to Windows , then Apple definitely has no valid excuse to avoid GPL v3.

> If Microsoft is willing to ship GNU tools

They're not. After you enable the Linux subsystem you get the userland from Canonical under Ubuntu's license, Microsoft ships WSL and CLI shims triggering the download of the Ubuntu userland.

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by masklinn »

kylec wrote: post #282
tjl wrote: post #277

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They cover things like this in the "Developer State of the Union" which is the talk really focused at developers. That's later today.

Where can I stream that?

You probably can't. You couldn't any previous year AFAIK, though they publish the sessions online afterwards (an other commenter posted the 2015 one)

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Post by lake99 »

ta_donk_gt wrote: post #214
mafro wrote: post #81

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I have never in RL heard anyone call it "OS ten"

Just curious what age range you are in. From what I've personally noticed, younger folks tend to almost all pronounce it "O-S-ecks" and most in my generation (~40) tend to pronounce it "O-S-ten".

I am close to your age, and I have always called it "O-S-ecks" because I hate roman numbers (there's a book that I call D-S-M-eye-vee) and because "O-S-ex ten point nine" sounds better than the alternative.

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by Yhippa »

izacus wrote: post #239
orbitur wrote: post #229

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Hey, one less reason for me to use FB Messenger. In complete honesty, I prefer FB Messenger because it seems a lot more expressive and it's way easier to access your photos. FB is really stomping on iMessage in the chat realm, and I'm sad I have to wait for iOS 10.

To be fair, it's probably stomping iMessage because you can also talk to people who didn't buy the same electronics brand.

I'm very torn about this. I can see why they might want to keep this on Apple hardware only. I've yet to see a video chat solution work as well as FaceTime on iOS devices does on Android. Maybe Duo is it but I need to see it to believe it.

Still, it's very frustrating. I have an Android device as my main phone but have an iPod touch to iMessage and FaceTime friends.

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by masklinn »

sidcool wrote: post #87
spitfire wrote: post #11

Will they update the unix layer? A lot of the CLI tools there are positively prehistoric. Maybe while they're at it they can add a real package manager too.

Ditto, this is supposed to be a Developers' event.

The keynote almost always has loads of end-user stuff, that's not new.

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by masklinn »

oblio wrote: post #121
zodiakzz wrote: post #104

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Any reason why they can't fork it and port all the new stuff? I'd imagine for legal reasons they will have to hire devs who haven't looked at the GNU source code.

Why fork? In 2016 Microsoft will be shipping a Windows extension that will allow running GPLv3 bash. Heck, if Microsoft is not afraid of the legal consequences, surely Apple shouldn't be, either?

> In 2016 Microsoft will be shipping a Windows extension that will allow running GPLv3 bash. Heck, if Microsoft is not afraid of the legal consequences, surely Apple shouldn't be, either?

Microsoft will not be shipping GPLv3 code. Microsoft will be shipping WSL, you get the actual code from Canonical under Ubuntu's license when you enable the WSL and try to use one of the command-line tools.

And guess what? You can do the exact same thing on your OSX machine right now, by installing Homebrew or Macports or Nix or even downloading and compiling the fucking tarballs. Apple has been "shipping an OSX extension that allows running GPLv3 bash" for a bit more than 15 years now.

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by kylec »

masklinn wrote: post #284
kylec wrote: post #282

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Where can I stream that?

You probably can't. You couldn't any previous year AFAIK, though they publish the sessions online afterwards (an other commenter posted the 2015 one)

So essentially a big middle finger from Apple to anyone not attending the conference. Sigh.
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