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Re: Apple announces iOS 10

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Why build a first party messaging app if most people aren't going to use it? For people who just want to send plain text messages the UI is pretty much identical. Text box, type, send.

What if I want to receive plain text messages?

Turn off iMessage or tell your friends. Or get over it because it's just a silly message?

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> 3D Touch (which as far as I can tell nobody even knows exists) I think people know it exists. The problem is that it doesn't do anything remotely useful, except for the iPhone keyboard cursor thing. > Siri (which everyone raves about but nobody uses for anything). I use it all the time (at least once a day) to add a reminder, set a timer, set an alarm, check sports scores (I don't really follow sports, so this will…

> except for the iPhone keyboard cursor thing. That's enough for me to never want to miss 3D touch again. >I use it all the time (at least once a day) I use it almost daily too, you get used to that things so quickly. The thing that annoys me with Siri is that it is slow. I want to say: "Hey Siri, how is the weather today?" and not "Hey Siri" wait, wait, wait, bling, bling, wait, wait, wait, "How is the weather today…

Can you not do that? In my experience (including a test just now), speaking that phrase in a natural cadence (no weird pauses) is recognized perfectly.

Re: Apple announces iOS 10

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Looks like Apple is doubling down on at least two features that really seem like duds -- 3D Touch (which as far as I can tell nobody even knows exists), and Siri (which everyone raves about but nobody uses for anything). I'd love to see UX improvements around minor inconveniences of the iOS experience: - what the hell the volume button does in different contexts (sometimes it changes the ringer, other times the in-ap…

My main use of 3d touch is switching apps. That combined with swiping from left eliminates having to reach down to the home button or up to the back button when using the phone one handed.

Re: Apple announces iOS 10

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Finally they managed to remove the weird intelligent selection behavior in safari!!! (The one that unpredictable marks blocks or the whole website). Thank you apple :) They also ignore any viewport meta data so you can always zoom. My Cordova app doesn't like this :( I hope it can be disabled for WKWebView programmatically

Interesting. Got any details on that?

Re: Apple announces iOS 10

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Am i the only one thinking that Steve Jobs would have refused most of the things that were introduced this morning? Apple sure has changed over the years.

Maybe not. Does it matter? Steve Jobs, brilliant though he was, has been dead for a while now, and shows every indication of staying that way into the indefinite future. While that doesn't necessarily mean he has been unable to stay up on the last few years' worth of change and innovation in the mobile space, it does mean that whatever unique insights he's been able to derive from same are not in a place where they c…

This is the exact right answer to 'it's not what Steve would have done'.

Who cares what Steve would have done? He doesn't, not any more.

Anyone who says this is basically just complaining about something they don't like, and invoking a ghost to back up the argument.

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I've been using macs for I guess a decade or so now and I still have no idea what the option key is for. When a keyboard shortcut is like ^+⌥+F6 I just mash buttons until it works. Why do they use a different symbol on the button than in the UI? I really have no desire to learn the seven different buttons in Mac OS and I wish application authors would stop using them so they could someday simplify the keyboard. I don…

> I still have no idea what the option key is for It's for "⌥". Yes, that's not ideal, and it's a striking UX failure on Apple's part that the keycap says "option" while the menu says ⌥ - all the more striking given Apple's generally well deserved reputation for getting that kind of thing right. Same goes for control and ^ - granted, Unices have represented Control as ^ since forever, but part of the appeal of a Mac…

The key has had the word option on it for several years now.

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> what the hell the volume button does in different contexts If the app you're using right now has a handle for audio playback, it changes the speaker volume. If not, it changes the ringer volume. As far as I can tell, that's all, and in a half decade of using iPhones and iPods, I've never actually seen it misbehave.

It is still impossible to change audio volume for headphones before the app begins playing. Consider this scenario: - Use iphone at max volume to power speakers (pseudo line-out) - Switch to sensitive IEM's later, attempt to change volume before starting... can't. Just changes notification volume. - Begin playing music, rupture eardrum if IEM's in. Fortunately iphone doesn't push enough current to damage the hardware…

You can also set the volume limiter in the settings if you want, so that 'full' volume doesn't rupture your eardrums.

Including the sibling replies, there's several solutions to this problem if you dig.

Re: Apple announces iOS 10

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post #171

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I've been using macs for I guess a decade or so now and I still have no idea what the option key is for. When a keyboard shortcut is like ^+⌥+F6 I just mash buttons until it works. Why do they use a different symbol on the button than in the UI? I really have no desire to learn the seven different buttons in Mac OS and I wish application authors would stop using them so they could someday simplify the keyboard. I don…

Well, then you haven't been using macs for a decade, but for a year, times ten (and that's totally fine, unless you're leaving arrogant comments on HN about "why we tolerate this or that"). I've been using macs for about 5 years and I still learn new useful features and shortcuts, and having 3 modifier keys is so useful (e.g. emacs + iterm2 + spectacle) that I can't see myself going back to linux/similar. ETA: also,…

>and having 3 modifier keys is so useful (e.g. emacs + iterm2 + spectacle) that I can't see myself going back to linux/similar

Linux has control, alt, and meta (aka "super" or "the Windows key").

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I'm not sure what solution they're looking for. A single universal volume control where if you turn up a video it means your ringer is now on full blast? 6 volume buttons on the side of your phone to adjust them each individually? Android's system of adjusting media volume when media is playing and ringer volume when it isn't seems like a reasonably clean solution. It takes a single tap to expand to the three sliders…

It's not that exotic, you've got a child or a sleeping partner or a boss in the same room and you want to watch a mostly visual video without any unnecessary jingles or other audio cues from disturbing them. So you reduce the volume, but it only reduced the ringer for calls, which isn't what you want. As the sibling answer says, newer Androids can do this. One click to display the volume, a touch to see the individua…

Or swipe down the top drawer and tap the Sound setting to Mute.
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