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Re: Apple announces iOS 10

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Post by Steko »

andrewla wrote: post #24

Looks like Apple is doubling down on at least two features that really seem like duds -- 3D Touch (which as far as I can tell nobody even knows exists), and Siri (which everyone raves about but nobody uses for anything). I'd love to see UX improvements around minor inconveniences of the iOS experience: - what the hell the volume button does in different contexts (sometimes it changes the ringer, other times the in-ap…

Can't speak to 3D touch as I'm on an older phone but I use Siri all the time, mostly for timers and dialing.

Re: Apple announces iOS 10

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Post by weinzierl »

baddox wrote: post #125
andrewla wrote: post #24

Looks like Apple is doubling down on at least two features that really seem like duds -- 3D Touch (which as far as I can tell nobody even knows exists), and Siri (which everyone raves about but nobody uses for anything). I'd love to see UX improvements around minor inconveniences of the iOS experience: - what the hell the volume button does in different contexts (sometimes it changes the ringer, other times the in-ap…

> 3D Touch (which as far as I can tell nobody even knows exists) I think people know it exists. The problem is that it doesn't do anything remotely useful, except for the iPhone keyboard cursor thing. > Siri (which everyone raves about but nobody uses for anything). I use it all the time (at least once a day) to add a reminder, set a timer, set an alarm, check sports scores (I don't really follow sports, so this will…

> except for the iPhone keyboard cursor thing.

That's enough for me to never want to miss 3D touch again.

>I use it all the time (at least once a day)

I use it almost daily too, you get used to that things so quickly. The thing that annoys me with Siri is that it is slow. I want to say: "Hey Siri, how is the weather today?" and not "Hey Siri" wait, wait, wait, bling, bling, wait, wait, wait, "How is the weather today?".

Re: Apple announces iOS 10

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Post by reacharavindh »

Razengan wrote: post #20
reacharavindh wrote: post #2

Accessing everything on lock screen? So, my GF can see my app activity and pretty do all the things without my authentication? Craig touts specifically that we don't need to press the home button for all this to work...

I'm sure you'll be able to decide the amount of stuff you want accessible from the lock screen, as you already get to do now, but you may have more pressing concerns regarding your partner's trust.

Oh, I used the example of my GF responding to messages/viewing notifications to essentially bring out my privacy concerns. Not that I don't trust my partner :) I must have disabled this feature when I installed iOS 9 and being unnecessarily surprised at this now.

Re: Apple announces iOS 10

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Post by yoz-y »

skrowl wrote: post #70
ultramancool wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 3D Touch (which as far as I can tell nobody even knows exists) Is this feature that bad? I'm an Android guy and it's probably the most appealing thing I've seen on the Apple side in a long time. At least as a replacement for the long press.

Android has had 3D touch (aka pressure sensitive touch events) since API Level 5 that shipped with Android 2.0 (Eclair) in 2009 - https://developer.android.com/reference/android/view/MotionE... . Feel free to install https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.casual_dev... on the oldest Android device you have and it will work. It just flopped on Android like it's now doing on iOS. Push-hold / long-click / wha…

On what devices? The problem with these kind of features (e.g.: huawei's knuckle touch) is that unless you have a large enough device support, the developers can not rely on it. 3D Touch will have a massive support in a few iPhone generations.

Re: Apple announces iOS 10

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Post by middleq »

jedanbik wrote: post #78
andrewla wrote: post #24

Looks like Apple is doubling down on at least two features that really seem like duds -- 3D Touch (which as far as I can tell nobody even knows exists), and Siri (which everyone raves about but nobody uses for anything). I'd love to see UX improvements around minor inconveniences of the iOS experience: - what the hell the volume button does in different contexts (sometimes it changes the ringer, other times the in-ap…

3D Touch is to iOS as the Option key is to macOS. Hold down the Option key and click on Airport or volume control to see what I mean in macOS. It gives you more information, and the information it provides is information you didn't necessarily need to have without holding down the Option key. In airport, with the option key held, you see options to generate a wireless diagnostics report. Without the option key held,…

I've found 3D touch to be useful. Looking forward to the increased support.

Re: Apple announces iOS 10

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Post by TazeTSchnitzel »

linkregister wrote: post #102
TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seven? What? There's Control, Option/Alt, Command, and Shift. Four modifier keys. This is the same set you have on other OSes, except there, Command is called Windows Key or Super. Yes, Apple has symbols as abbreviations for Control, Command, Option, and Shift. Yes, Option is also called Alt. But it's not really all that complicated.

The vast majority of Windows desktop keyboards do not have a fn key.

Older Apple keyboards didn't have them either. I'm using one right now.

Re: Apple announces iOS 10

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Post by joecool1029 »

throwanem wrote: post #43
andrewla wrote: post #24

Looks like Apple is doubling down on at least two features that really seem like duds -- 3D Touch (which as far as I can tell nobody even knows exists), and Siri (which everyone raves about but nobody uses for anything). I'd love to see UX improvements around minor inconveniences of the iOS experience: - what the hell the volume button does in different contexts (sometimes it changes the ringer, other times the in-ap…

> what the hell the volume button does in different contexts If the app you're using right now has a handle for audio playback, it changes the speaker volume. If not, it changes the ringer volume. As far as I can tell, that's all, and in a half decade of using iPhones and iPods, I've never actually seen it misbehave.

It is still impossible to change audio volume for headphones before the app begins playing.

Consider this scenario:

- Use iphone at max volume to power speakers (pseudo line-out)

- Switch to sensitive IEM's later, attempt to change volume before starting... can't. Just changes notification volume.

- Begin playing music, rupture eardrum if IEM's in.

Fortunately iphone doesn't push enough current to damage the hardware (which can be replaced), but it is plenty enough to damage hearing (which can't be replaced).

I have yet to find a way to change headphone volume without initiating playback.

Android's volume control is a mess but at least it is possible to change these volumes.

Blackberry 10 handles the situation best: It remembers the volume for line-out usage and remembers the headphone volume used last. If Apple can detect headphones are unplugged they can detect line impedance vs. headphone impedance.

Re: Apple announces iOS 10

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Post by kingnothing »

franciscojgo wrote: post #124
giarc wrote: post #121

Anyone know if Siri will still only respond when plugged in? I wish it were an option to turn on at all time. I realize battery would be drained considerably.

It works every time, so long you are not on "Low Power Mode".

As of iOS9, the "hey Siri" touchless functionality is only available when the phone is plugged in.

Re: Apple announces iOS 10

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Post by kkirsche »

kingnothing wrote: post #138
franciscojgo wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It works every time, so long you are not on "Low Power Mode".

As of iOS9, the "hey Siri" touchless functionality is only available when the phone is plugged in.

Assuming you aren't on the iPhone 6S I believe

Re: Apple announces iOS 10

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Post by yoz-y »

partiallypro wrote: post #68
orbitur wrote: post #8

Holy moly, Apple is very aware of the competing chat apps. iMessage looks amazing and they packed a lot of features in there, but I wonder how they're going to make it all easily discoverable.

Really? I felt the presentation of iMessage was embarrassingly trying to seem hip. The only thing I didn't find to be annoying bloat was the ability to tap and "like" a message. Really cuts down on messages like "great" and "ok." Otherwise it honestly felt like Yahoo Messenger from 2005 in level of bloat, where you could "buzz" people and shake their windows. People use things that aren't iMessage, not because of fea…

No. People use other apps because they have a large adoption and stickers (we chat and line) or because they were free while sms were not (whats app). Only us tech nerds care about security.
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