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OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by rangibaby »

arca_vorago wrote: post #339
mayoff wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair (regarding "closed tech"), Apple was hardly the only one to release a propriety Vulkan alternative (there's also Mantle and DX12) and Apple released Metal to developers almost two years before Vulkan 1.0 was released.

You know, I really think this line of argument on HN is getting old and needs to be relegated to the dustbin of intellectual discussion. Saying "Well, but X did $similarthing" as a loose form of justification of whatever Z is doing, like some strange variation of the "not as bad" fallacy. (Though I understand you're point about industry modus operandi) a cookie if anyone knows the actual fallacy this falls under

I've seen it called "whataboutism"

Re: OS X is now macOS and gets support for Siri, auto unlock

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Post by therealmarv »

I waited for PiP or as Windows calls it make a Window always stay on top (like Win and Linux can do for decades) for so long and now I have to use Safari as it seems to get it working. I also doubt it will work with Flash or any live web sport streams :( What was/is so complicated to get an always on top window on OS X aka macOS?

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Post by what_ever »

orbitur wrote: post #229
izacus wrote: post #212

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High-level features like 3x larger emojis in an app? O.o

Hey, one less reason for me to use FB Messenger. In complete honesty, I prefer FB Messenger because it seems a lot more expressive and it's way easier to access your photos. FB is really stomping on iMessage in the chat realm, and I'm sad I have to wait for iOS 10.

I was hoping that they will launch iMessage on Android. I would have uninstalled FB messenger from my phone then.

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Post by rarepostinlurkr »

kylec wrote: post #282
tjl wrote: post #277

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They cover things like this in the "Developer State of the Union" which is the talk really focused at developers. That's later today.

Where can I stream that?

https://developer.apple.com/wwdc/live/#/. It's streaming there now.

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Post by mickronome »

sovande wrote: post #359
izacus wrote: post #97

Seriously, did Apple fire their OSX / macOS team? Pretty much all new features are spinoffs of their iOS infrastructure (Siri, handover, etc.) and the main OS development and innovation seems to have stalled. Not even a feature like telling software that you're on a metered connection and it shouldn't run backups! Is there anyone at Apple still working on innovating / improving OS X? Like people that tried to bring i…

Well, they have "innovated" on security in a very detrimental way for us developers. SIP, for example, plus rheumatic sandbox rules has made coding on OS X very unpleasant and limited. It is like Apple don't want us to develop anything useful on OS X.

I can't really escape a feeling which tells me that apple wants to get rid of OSX completely. Ever since I posited the possibility a few years ago, they have followed my estimated trajectory almost perfectly, only a little slower. Bringing more and more iOS into OSX, even where it doesn't _really_ fit. The dual use file system lockdown (etc) feigning increased security as it's sole motive, but in reality it's as much about pushing all code within a set of API's shared between iOS and OSX.

I admit it sounds a bit like crazy talk, I guess we'll find out in a couple years.

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Post by bla2 »

robotresearcher wrote: post #365
pier25 wrote: post #355

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Nailed it. Any app or service that isn't cross platform has no real future.

Some features are not intended to maximize penetration; they are differentiators for their platform. Super Mario has a real future and you can only get it on Nintendo.

Coincidentally, Super Mario is a single player game.

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Post by jamesjguthrie »

aethant wrote: post #347
kylec wrote: post #290

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So essentially a big middle finger from Apple to anyone not attending the conference. Sigh.

Do you attend a lot of paid conferences that stream live for free in real time? That must be cool.

Google I/O does.

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Post by ggreenbe »

robotresearcher wrote: post #365
pier25 wrote: post #355

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Nailed it. Any app or service that isn't cross platform has no real future.

Some features are not intended to maximize penetration; they are differentiators for their platform. Super Mario has a real future and you can only get it on Nintendo.

Right, but we are talking about a communication platform which inherently should be crossplatform

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Post by ali-maki »

stephenr wrote: post #184
chetanahuja wrote: post #156

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"My guess is that most of Mac users do want/use Apple mobile device" That's what it is... a guess. Unless you can produce some data to back it up. There's a huge community (especially outside of US) who use Macs for day-to-day work but use android mobile devices as that's the most sensible choice for a majority of the world.

> use android mobile devices as that's the most sensible choice That is a highly subjective statement at best.

It's not even a preference thing though. Android phones are absolutely killing the low-end smartphone market and international users are very heavily Android locked-in. I can buy a pretty solid Android phone for 200-300 dollars, even less these days. The cheapest iPhones are 400-500 dollars. It's why Android dominates iOS globally.(https://www.idc.com/prodserv/smartphone-os-market-share.jsp). Outside of SV, Android is still the most common mobile OS (including in the US).
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