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Jessica Livingston’s Pretty Complete List on How Not to Fail

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Re: Jessica Livingston’s Pretty Complete List on How Not to Fail

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> if you spend all your time trying to sell what nobody wants, it will never become something people want As an engineer, I agree. However, I follow Scott Adams blogging about Trump and I am starting to think different. Currently Trump is trying to sell something nobody wants (himself as president) and he seems to able to change people so they want him. If he really becomes president, I cannot ignore the fact that Ad…

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11871755 and marked it off-topic.

Re: Jessica Livingston’s Pretty Complete List on How Not to Fail

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The networking is the personal insurance policy by your cofounders against startup failure. The people connections built during networking events will land these cofounders leadership/management positions at other companies if and when startup fails instead of being unemployable or starting at the bottom. The founders, typically technical co-founders, that don't network has no such insurance in place and tend to go b…

The problem with this line of thinking is that smart companies: 1) Aren't going to hire somebody for a leadership position because they met them networking --- they are going to hire them based on merit 2) The people in charge of smart companies aren't at networking events because networking events are a waste of time Startups are a way to "level up" your career only because you can skip years of moving up a corporat…

> 1) Aren't going to hire somebody for a leadership position because they met them networking --- they are going to hire them based on merit

Sorry, I have to disagree. Understanding the "merit" of a leadership/management role has way more to do with who you know than your merit. Management ability is almost entirely subjective.

Re: Jessica Livingston’s Pretty Complete List on How Not to Fail

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Great insight. > But MEN hired these showgirls, and WOMEN are actually fufilling [sic] those roles. So both parties are at fault. There was a pretty good article written by a woman who was hired as a dancer to attend a convention who was lectured by one of the female attendees. Her point was that she had a right to make a living too, and it's just as destructive to bash a woman who works for a conference floor, as it…

this is true. I'm actually non judgmental of dancers and even strippers. I mean, for the same reasons you just said. but should this be an advertising mechanism at a tech conference? if you need a dancer to advertise your startup, then you probably have a shitty startup because your product doesnt speak for itself. So no I'm not against dancers in general, or even strippers, but there is a time and place for everythi…

>but should this be an advertising mechanism at a tech conference? if you need a dancer to advertise your startup, then you probably have a shitty startup because your product doesnt speak for itself.

That's not true. A big tradeshow has tons of companies. Attendees are busy, especially at the shows where floor hours are very limited. At least for B2B products, where a single deal can be a lot of income, it's incredibly effective to have attractive people working onsite. Due to the demographics of the shows I've been to, this means hiring women. (If the attendees skewed another way, I'd hire attractive men.)

But don't hire "dancers" -- I agree on that. They are intimidating. Guys will gawk but not come in; you won't gain customers. I've seen companies make this mistake. The goal should be conversion. So have friendly, good looking people, to make introductions, get leads.

If this is wrong, then it needs to be banned at the tradeshow level since the incentives are in the wrong direction. Maybe that's unethical, but a lot of "growth hacking" is, too.

>some ethnicities might even have males that are offended by female dancers

What's ethnicity got to do with it?

Re: Jessica Livingston’s Pretty Complete List on How Not to Fail

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Whenever someone advises "don't do this", it's usually pretty easy to come up with valid reason to do this. Fine. The lesson here is either avoid the sinkhole of conferences/events. Or, if you are so inclined to go, make sure you understand that unless you are extremely focused and efficient, it is likely to be a waste of time for you.

I'd like to echo this. If you're not experienced enough to know when it's okay to break the rule, you shouldn't break the rule.

Similarly, if you're not experience to know when it's okay to break the rule, you shouldn't be repeated the rule, because you haven't absorbed why it exists and intelligently talk about its limitations.

A smart person knows the correct answers, but a really smart person knows when they wouldn't be correct.

Re: Jessica Livingston’s Pretty Complete List on How Not to Fail

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> 1. Make something people want. I haven't had a ton of experience in startups...once I had to work out of a startup space. And it amazed me the number of conversations I would hear between aspiring entrepreneurs and random strangers that were variations of, "Please tell me if you think this is a good idea". Everyone knows what it's like to want something. I didn't really hear about Tinder until after it blew up into…

I had no idea I wanted Twitter until I used it. I thought it was completely stupid, but I was completely wrong.

Re: Jessica Livingston’s Pretty Complete List on How Not to Fail

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as a 26yr old female Electrical Engineer getting involved with entrepreneurship and doing my own software startup, I agree there is too much controversy, talk and fear surrounding being a female in tech. Don't get me wrong, it is isolating in general but after working for two startups, one bought out by a foreign company and another now has billions in funding, doing software analytics on the trading floor through su…

PLEASE post this on Medium. More people need to hear your perspective.

+1 to that. I have worked with so many great women engineers in in my career (my first team was 4 women and 2 guys, my first 2 bosses were both women and both amazing). Women in tech was not an issue that ever came up, we were just a team and it worked great.

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"The best metric to choose is good old fashioned revenue." The best metric to choose is good old fashioned profit. I appreciate that growth can be hindered by making a profit, but isn't that what matters in the end? Amazon, Twitter, Box and many other public tech companies went public without turning a profit so it seems I'm wrong.

Amazon still doesn't turn a profit. Neither does Salesforce. Their measures are pure revenue / growth.

They actually alternative between being profitable and not being profitable. See this graph:

https://ycharts.com/companies/AMZN/net_income

Growth is their priority. Yet, they make sure they have plenty money coming in to keep everyone paid, invest back in business, and have a pile of profit on occasion. Years ago, I did a research report on them. Back then, they were making a significant profit with just $200 mil in debt or so. They could've paid off total debt in just a few years if they paused to maintain the profit. They killed the profit on purpose to expand the then-new AWS. Smart decision. :)

Re: Jessica Livingston’s Pretty Complete List on How Not to Fail

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as a 26yr old female Electrical Engineer getting involved with entrepreneurship and doing my own software startup, I agree there is too much controversy, talk and fear surrounding being a female in tech. Don't get me wrong, it is isolating in general but after working for two startups, one bought out by a foreign company and another now has billions in funding, doing software analytics on the trading floor through su…

I agree with others that this is a great write-up on the situation that could be revised into a great, blog post or something. One specific thing that jumps out at me is that both you and Jessica write that there's problems but people often write about the wrong ones. Usually due to no industry experience at that level or some bias.

Do you have links to any write-ups that you find more accurate?

Re: Jessica Livingston’s Pretty Complete List on How Not to Fail

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post #40

> 1. Make something people want. I haven't had a ton of experience in startups...once I had to work out of a startup space. And it amazed me the number of conversations I would hear between aspiring entrepreneurs and random strangers that were variations of, "Please tell me if you think this is a good idea". Everyone knows what it's like to want something. I didn't really hear about Tinder until after it blew up into…

" Do you want to get laid? Do you often base your decision on the looks of a potential mate? Would you be OK with requesting consensual sex without having to fill out a form?"

Seek help.

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