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The officer doesn't have to know. Or care. He just takes every penny the system allows and lets you fight the DA over it at a later date. Even if the money is returned, it doesn't cost the cop anything to try. And if they keep the money, some moeny goes back to the police department.
Yes, but my statement was more of a technical one regarding how such a system might work. I am speaking about the method used to determine how much is in an account and what can be withdrawn, because they can't check your balance without a pin number, and if their system is issuing multiple repeated authorizations, what protections banks have in place that might block these sorts of transactions to prevent theft.
Police use new device to seize money in bank accounts or on prepaid cards
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#192- Well my grandma saved it for me when I was a child. - Prove it. - Sorry but she's dead and I moved it to a new bank account two years ago. - Yeah sure.
This is just disgusting.
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#193Earlier quoted context omitted.
From the article: > Now, the Oklahoma Highway Patrol has a device that also allows them to seize money in your bank account or on prepaid cards.
The article is wrong. ERAD card scanners were first developed around 2012 for the science and technology arm of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security to combat the use of prepaid debit cards by drug cartels to transport drug money, according to a Homeland Security media release. Since then, some law enforcement agencies around the country have adopted the technology. According to ERAD Group’s patent for the device…
Wouldn't that go against the credit card (or pre-paid card) merchant agreement? And wouldn't ERAD have to have signed such an agreement in order to access the credit card network?
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#194From the article: State Sen. Kyle Loveless, R-Oklahoma City, said that removes due process and the belief that a suspect is presumed innocent until proven guilty. He said we've already seen cases in Oklahoma where police are abusing the system. "We've seen single mom's stuff be taken, a cancer survivor his drugs taken, we saw a Christian band being taken. We've seen innocent people's stuff being taken. We've seen whe…
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#195I've seen it said before and I'll say it again. Anyone who works for companies who make products like this in any capacity should be blacklisted in the industry. The missing scruples here could fill several large containers.
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#196Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, and this would fall under the 4th amendment, but until it makes it to the SCOTUS the practice is going to be alive and well.
True but it will always be illegal.
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#197From the article: State Sen. Kyle Loveless, R-Oklahoma City, said that removes due process and the belief that a suspect is presumed innocent until proven guilty. He said we've already seen cases in Oklahoma where police are abusing the system. "We've seen single mom's stuff be taken, a cancer survivor his drugs taken, we saw a Christian band being taken. We've seen innocent people's stuff being taken. We've seen whe…
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#198From Article: "If you can prove that you have a legitimate reason to have that money it will be given back to you. And we've done that in the past," Vincent said about any money seized. Under no circumstance should i have to PROVE where my money came from nor how i got it. this is assumed guilt and utterly unamerican IMO. Where is the burden of proof that must be reached before taking my assets and forcing me to prov…
> backwoods state full of backwoods laws, and apparently backwoods people Attacking an entire population of people like that is a nasty breach of HN's civility rule. Please don't ever post anything like this again. It's the upvoters of such comments who should most be ashamed of themselves. The fact that people here feel angry about police seizing cash without due process can, and must, be kept distinct from cheap sl…
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#199"If you can prove can prove that you have a legitimate reason to have that money it will be given back to you." - Well my grandma saved it for me when I was a child. - Prove it. - Sorry but she's dead and I moved it to a new bank account two years ago. - Yeah sure. This is just disgusting.
He also said they look for inconsistencies in your story. So, the more you talk you have more to explain.
It's curious to see the case of lawful vs unlawful corruption evolve, in different countries.