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Tesla Model X autonomously crashes into building, owner claims

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Re: Tesla Model X autonomously crashes into building, owner claims

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Post by loeg »

Matt3o12_ wrote: post #7

I'm very skeptical about it. A lot of accidents happen when people confuse the brakes and acceleration paddle. Furthermore, the person who had the accident claimed the break was unresponsive. This could further mean she confused the paddles and instead of breaking, she accelerated even more. I'm happy to hear, though, that the person was not heavily injured (she had burns on her arms but I don't think they are of the…

Another relatively common "accelerator" problem is a floor mat that rests on top of one or both pedals.

Re: Tesla Model X autonomously crashes into building, owner claims

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Post by chrisseaton »

greglindahl wrote: post #26
Matt3o12_ wrote: post #7

I'm very skeptical about it. A lot of accidents happen when people confuse the brakes and acceleration paddle. Furthermore, the person who had the accident claimed the break was unresponsive. This could further mean she confused the paddles and instead of breaking, she accelerated even more. I'm happy to hear, though, that the person was not heavily injured (she had burns on her arms but I don't think they are of the…

Given that (1) pressing the wrong pedal is a fairly common accident, (2) the driver was new to Model X, and (3) the Model X has "one pedal" driving, it's extremely likely that the driver thought she was pressing the brake. Contrary to what the husband says in the article, this problem happens to drivers of all ages.

One pedal driving? How does that work? When you take your foot off the accelerator it brakes? What about the clutch?

Re: Tesla Model X autonomously crashes into building, owner claims

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Post by blktiger »

dragontamer wrote: post #6
arcticfox wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This story will certainly be more interesting once Tesla publishes the data from their side.

The story is already interesting because Tesla does this, and no other car company seems to. Tesla monitors your driving behavior so that they can save face and blame the driver if things go bad. I don't know of any other car company that does this. Those monitors are installed to protect the company image, not you. Its like you're buying a $100,000 piece of spyware. The car isn't your possession. Its sensor data bel…

I believe you can opt-out of the data sharing if you want, though nobody does. In any event, I doubt Tesla is storing this data just to protect their company image. It may be a nice side benefit, but they have repeatedly said that the data is for training their automatic driving systems.

Re: Tesla Model X autonomously crashes into building, owner claims

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Post by prudenthints »

> It's not like she's a 90-year-old person who's going to press the gas pedal instead of the brake

While there is a correlation between age and difficulty driving, I don't know how this is a valid defense. In moments of stress and danger we're all prone to making mistakes.

> It's a mile and half away from our house

Many accidents happen close to home due to your perceived feeling of knowledge and safety in the environment.

Re: Tesla Model X autonomously crashes into building, owner claims

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Post by delecti »

chrisseaton wrote: post #32
greglindahl wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given that (1) pressing the wrong pedal is a fairly common accident, (2) the driver was new to Model X, and (3) the Model X has "one pedal" driving, it's extremely likely that the driver thought she was pressing the brake. Contrary to what the husband says in the article, this problem happens to drivers of all ages.

One pedal driving? How does that work? When you take your foot off the accelerator it brakes? What about the clutch?

When not driving in autonomous mode, yes, taking your foot off the accelerator causes the car to activate regenerative braking.

And it's an electric vehicle, there's no clutch.

Re: Tesla Model X autonomously crashes into building, owner claims

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Post by Bud »

chrisseaton wrote: post #32
greglindahl wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given that (1) pressing the wrong pedal is a fairly common accident, (2) the driver was new to Model X, and (3) the Model X has "one pedal" driving, it's extremely likely that the driver thought she was pressing the brake. Contrary to what the husband says in the article, this problem happens to drivers of all ages.

One pedal driving? How does that work? When you take your foot off the accelerator it brakes? What about the clutch?

Electric cars have no clutch. The Tesla is a single-gear transmission.

Re: Tesla Model X autonomously crashes into building, owner claims

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Post by mtgx »

chrisseaton wrote: post #32
greglindahl wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Given that (1) pressing the wrong pedal is a fairly common accident, (2) the driver was new to Model X, and (3) the Model X has "one pedal" driving, it's extremely likely that the driver thought she was pressing the brake. Contrary to what the husband says in the article, this problem happens to drivers of all ages.

One pedal driving? How does that work? When you take your foot off the accelerator it brakes? What about the clutch?

EVs work more like an automatic transmission car, but they actually has no gears to change.

Re: Tesla Model X autonomously crashes into building, owner claims

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Post by chrisseaton »

Bud wrote: post #36
chrisseaton wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One pedal driving? How does that work? When you take your foot off the accelerator it brakes? What about the clutch?

Electric cars have no clutch. The Tesla is a single-gear transmission.

Is it hard to get used to a car with no clutch?

Re: Tesla Model X autonomously crashes into building, owner claims

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Post by maccard »

chrisseaton wrote: post #39
Bud wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Electric cars have no clutch. The Tesla is a single-gear transmission.

Is it hard to get used to a car with no clutch?

I drive a manual car, and have driven an automatic on occasion. I found it quite simple in most occasions, but when you need to slow down suddenly, the instinct is still to use a clutch and brake.
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