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Re: Cloud.gov

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https://chat.18f.gov/?channel=devops-public , actually. EDIT: Gaaah, sorry, down right now for reasons. Will post here again when it's back up. Sorry!

that link is broken

https://github.com/18F/chat

Seems like the Slack invite app is not deployed to cloud.gov right now.

Re: Cloud.gov

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post #41
post #40

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that link is broken

https://github.com/18F/chat Seems like the Slack invite app is not deployed to cloud.gov right now.

It's down for some internal IT reasons, but should be back up at some point soon (but not this weekend).

Re: Cloud.gov

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post #39

I work in GSA as well, and I have a lot of trouble getting software approved that you use all the time, even getting nginx approved took a long time. Forget about vagrant, virtual box, recent versions of python, etc... How were you able to get ATOs to operate most of your systems and work through these policies?

This is actually a great time to talk about this stuff, but maybe easier on email (firstname.lastname@gsa.gov) than HN. Drop me a line!

Re: Cloud.gov

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post #39

I work in GSA as well, and I have a lot of trouble getting software approved that you use all the time, even getting nginx approved took a long time. Forget about vagrant, virtual box, recent versions of python, etc... How were you able to get ATOs to operate most of your systems and work through these policies?

They cheat.

Edit: they ignore a lot of the rules that GSA (among others) mandate the rest of the government follow. One great example is cloud.gov, operating on the public Internet without finishing the fedramp approval process. It also doesn't comply with the TIC requirements GSA pushes on the rest of the .gov.

The hard problems in government IT are being able to pay enough to attract top talent and dealing with all the authorities and oversight that parent refers to. If you remove those two legally-required obstacles, you're cheating. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but comparing GSA's pet project to normal government is disingenuous at best.

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See: https://pages.18f.gov/joining-18f/ I'll let @bmogilefsky describe the jobs. @18F as a whole hires engineers, designers, product managers, content writers, journalists, folks with non-traditional cross-functional backgrounds, etc. Salary depends on job grade. See [1] for an explanation of the grades within 18F. Then see the GS pay scale [2] to figure out the pay for your grade in your region. [1]: https://pages.1…

Nothing says "we employ the best" like "fixed salary based on tenure and job function"

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Re: Cloud.gov

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I'm about to join 18F (in a few weeks), working on cloud.gov. I worked on the Google Cloud Platform team around the time Compute Engine and Big Query were launched (but spent most of my time on App Engine). A few weeks ago at the Cloud Foundry Summit the folks from cloud.gov.au gave a keynote. Cloud.gov got some nice shoutouts - the Australian counterparts reused a lot of the cloud.gov work, thanks to the transparent…

Awesome!! Looking forward to meeting you!

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#48
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I'm the product lead on cloud.gov... Thanks for noticing us! There are other Cloud Foundry deployments, but what makes cloud.gov special is the focus on ensuring federal agencies are actually able to use it. Federal compliance for a cloud service provider is a tough bar to clear, and without it most agencies are simply unable to take advantage of capabilities the rest of the world now takes for granted. That in turn…

Any plans to standardize agencies tech stacks? Is that even a good idea?

Good luck with that. I was only a government contractor and the amount of blue badges that argue how the other agency is doing it wrong / stupid and they would never use their stack is insane.

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See: https://pages.18f.gov/joining-18f/ I'll let @bmogilefsky describe the jobs. @18F as a whole hires engineers, designers, product managers, content writers, journalists, folks with non-traditional cross-functional backgrounds, etc. Salary depends on job grade. See [1] for an explanation of the grades within 18F. Then see the GS pay scale [2] to figure out the pay for your grade in your region. [1]: https://pages.1…

Nothing says "we employ the best" like "fixed salary based on tenure and job function"

Do they claim anything like "we employ the best"?

(It's probably better that they don't: http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2005/01/27.html)

Re: Cloud.gov

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Hey I'm very interested in pursuing FOIA modernization with you guys. Is sending in a resume through the link the best way to proceed?

The way we operate is that agencies come to us to do projects (or we initiate shared services like cloud.gov), so we don't exactly get to pick anything we want. That being said, there is a lot of freedom within the projects we have to work on things that interest you.

(And yes, sending a resume is how you get started.)
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