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Re: Cloud.gov

#31

Post by VonGuard »

bmogilefsky wrote: post #11

I'm the product lead on cloud.gov... Thanks for noticing us! There are other Cloud Foundry deployments, but what makes cloud.gov special is the focus on ensuring federal agencies are actually able to use it. Federal compliance for a cloud service provider is a tough bar to clear, and without it most agencies are simply unable to take advantage of capabilities the rest of the world now takes for granted. That in turn…

You forgot to mention your slack: chat.cloud.gov, where people can come ask questions, right?

Re: Cloud.gov

#32

Post by a12k »

bmogilefsky wrote: post #24
empath75 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What sorts of jobs are available there and what's the salary like? I currently do devops at a large Internet content company near Dulles and I've got federal government experience from many years ago.

We're recruiting actively across many disciplines. 18F employs a huge range of amazing people with diverse histories from both inside and outside of government. Everyone is an impact junkie. Salary is competitive with industry through a special hiring authority although capped at government levels without bonus, stock, etc. There are intangibles that come from actually being able to improve the way government approac…

Hey I'm very interested in pursuing FOIA modernization with you guys. Is sending in a resume through the link the best way to proceed?

Re: Cloud.gov

#33

Post by aidanfeldman »

VonGuard wrote: post #31
bmogilefsky wrote: post #11

I'm the product lead on cloud.gov... Thanks for noticing us! There are other Cloud Foundry deployments, but what makes cloud.gov special is the focus on ensuring federal agencies are actually able to use it. Federal compliance for a cloud service provider is a tough bar to clear, and without it most agencies are simply unable to take advantage of capabilities the rest of the world now takes for granted. That in turn…

You forgot to mention your slack: chat.cloud.gov, where people can come ask questions, right?

https://chat.18f.gov/?channel=devops-public, actually. EDIT: Gaaah, sorry, down right now for reasons. Will post here again when it's back up. Sorry!

Re: Cloud.gov

#34

Post by aidanfeldman »

a12k wrote: post #32
bmogilefsky wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We're recruiting actively across many disciplines. 18F employs a huge range of amazing people with diverse histories from both inside and outside of government. Everyone is an impact junkie. Salary is competitive with industry through a special hiring authority although capped at government levels without bonus, stock, etc. There are intangibles that come from actually being able to improve the way government approac…

Hey I'm very interested in pursuing FOIA modernization with you guys. Is sending in a resume through the link the best way to proceed?

The way we operate is that agencies come to us to do projects (or we initiate shared services like cloud.gov), so we don't exactly get to pick anything we want. That being said, there is a lot of freedom within the projects we have to work on things that interest you.

Re: Cloud.gov

#35

Post by aidanfeldman »

brianwawok wrote: post #28
verst wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

See: https://pages.18f.gov/joining-18f/ I'll let @bmogilefsky describe the jobs. @18F as a whole hires engineers, designers, product managers, content writers, journalists, folks with non-traditional cross-functional backgrounds, etc. Salary depends on job grade. See [1] for an explanation of the grades within 18F. Then see the GS pay scale [2] to figure out the pay for your grade in your region. [1]: https://pages.1…

Nothing says "we employ the best" like "fixed salary based on tenure and job function"

That's a bit out of our control. We are able to hire quickly because we use a "specialist" hiring authority, but that comes with downsides like what you describe. I'm a developer and am making more than I did at any previous job, if that helps.

Re: Cloud.gov

#36

Post by aidanfeldman »

booop wrote: post #29
bmogilefsky wrote: post #11

I'm the product lead on cloud.gov... Thanks for noticing us! There are other Cloud Foundry deployments, but what makes cloud.gov special is the focus on ensuring federal agencies are actually able to use it. Federal compliance for a cloud service provider is a tough bar to clear, and without it most agencies are simply unable to take advantage of capabilities the rest of the world now takes for granted. That in turn…

Wouldn't deploying cloudfoundry to AWS GovCloud accomplish the same thing? (Sorry, if the question seems too ignorant)

We're in the process of moving to GovCloud, but that's a relatively small part of the overall compliance...fun...that goes into getting a service FedRAMP-approved.

Re: Cloud.gov

#37

Post by [deleted] »

brianwawok wrote: post #28
verst wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

See: https://pages.18f.gov/joining-18f/ I'll let @bmogilefsky describe the jobs. @18F as a whole hires engineers, designers, product managers, content writers, journalists, folks with non-traditional cross-functional backgrounds, etc. Salary depends on job grade. See [1] for an explanation of the grades within 18F. Then see the GS pay scale [2] to figure out the pay for your grade in your region. [1]: https://pages.1…

Nothing says "we employ the best" like "fixed salary based on tenure and job function"

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Re: Cloud.gov

#38

Post by verst »

brianwawok wrote: post #28
verst wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

See: https://pages.18f.gov/joining-18f/ I'll let @bmogilefsky describe the jobs. @18F as a whole hires engineers, designers, product managers, content writers, journalists, folks with non-traditional cross-functional backgrounds, etc. Salary depends on job grade. See [1] for an explanation of the grades within 18F. Then see the GS pay scale [2] to figure out the pay for your grade in your region. [1]: https://pages.1…

Nothing says "we employ the best" like "fixed salary based on tenure and job function"

18F positions are limited to 2 years, renewable by another 2 years.

Many people (self included) leave the private sector for this duration to support the mission of 18F. After the term is over many people will return to the private sector.

I'm OK with a pay cut to work on meaningful projects that benefit the American public. I'm not worried about returning to the private sector if/when I choose to do so.

Re: Cloud.gov

#39

Post by nvas »

I work in GSA as well, and I have a lot of trouble getting software approved that you use all the time, even getting nginx approved took a long time. Forget about vagrant, virtual box, recent versions of python, etc...

How were you able to get ATOs to operate most of your systems and work through these policies?

Re: Cloud.gov

#40

Post by apahwa »

aidanfeldman wrote: post #33
VonGuard wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You forgot to mention your slack: chat.cloud.gov, where people can come ask questions, right?

https://chat.18f.gov/?channel=devops-public , actually. EDIT: Gaaah, sorry, down right now for reasons. Will post here again when it's back up. Sorry!

that link is broken
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