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Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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This is kind of convenient; it gives me one more excuse not to use facebook. A few days ago I got the usual notification email that somebody had sent me a message on FB. Clicking is a low barrier so I clicked, curiously. Then I instead got the "No, now you have to install Messenger app" screen. That was enough of a barrier that I said "oh forget it, who cares, anybody who knows me would know better than to send me an…

so you never ever use FB on the desktop ? You can still read messages there. I have quite a lot of international friends on FB of whom i don't have a phone number but use Messenger to communicate. Of course, i could try to find out their skype/email but the endresult would be the same, just more hassle to get there. With WhatsApp and Messenger i can pretty much reach anyone i know right now, but i could remove the regular FB app from my phone though.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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So rather than fixing the problems that result in users messaging via the mobile web app instead of the messenger app, they're just going to "solve" the problem by forcing users to use the messenger app? This is why Facebook as a company doesn't have high levels of consumer trust. This will bite them in the future. Once you lose that level of trust it is extremely difficult to gain back.

I'm not a FB fanboy or anything, but sometimes it is a good choice to free yourself from legacy tech burden and build for the future. The web (html documents fetched via http requests) were not built with mobile devices in mind, especially websockets. In the mobile era, all messaging is based on push notifications which must go through the device vendor (APNS or GCM), and trying to support the legacy tech in this lan…

Sure. In my case that legacy burden is Facebook.

I work for a living and carry a work phone that is managed due to compliance requirements. I could pop on Facebook and check the occasional message. Facebook makes the mobile web experience as user hostile as possible, but it's sort of works. Now I'm stuck, as are about 20,000 of my coworkers.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Heard of messenger.com ?

Facebook blocks Messenger.com for mobile browser user agents; you need to spoof your UA if you want to use it on mobile. (Some of the Facebook app wrappers can do this for you.)

venmo.com does the same thing.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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It's really sad to me to see a bunch of intelligent people here being led like sheep by Facebook (no, this isn't a sheeple post, hear me out) Virtually everyone here complains "Facebook does XYZ really bad but I still use them because all my friends are there". I have a solution. Why don't you get all your friends off there? Pick a platform that you really like and start evangelising. The only reason why Facebook has…

> Why don't you get all your friends off there?

That is a bit naive. If you have friends from different backgrounds and periods of your live with different interests than yourself, i can tell you that most of them could care less than to change the messenger of choice because someone likes a different messenger more for reasons they don't care about.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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post #279

So much complaining. The web app version is crap, of course they want to move people over to the app. Why waste resources on an inferior web version when they can focus their attention on the very successful mobile app. Its just good business sense and seeing that 99.9999999999% of Facebook users already have Messenger installed, its a non issue.

> Why waste resources on an inferior web version when they can focus their attention on the very successful mobile app.

Perhaps because the web version is not limited to the proprietary runtime of a single operating system.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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post #282

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>> "If someone wants to mess with you they can just keep calling you and your only choice is to block them and remove them from your friends list" This seems like either a made up scenario or you have weird friends. Who would keep calling someone to 'mess with them'???

A classmate when you're holding a presentation? It sounds entirely plausible to me.

Why would you have your phone on while giving a presentation? Also, it's not a very Messenger specific problem - they could do the same thing with your actual phone number.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Why is anyone using Facebook for chat at all? (Real question)

Because everyone has it. And it doesn't need a phone number. So it's almost as ubiquitous as SMS, without distributing your phone number. Win-win.

how often do you want to chat with someone you wouldn't give your phone number to though? if they can call you via messenger anyway, where is the win in them not having your phone number?

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

#308

This is kind of convenient; it gives me one more excuse not to use facebook. A few days ago I got the usual notification email that somebody had sent me a message on FB. Clicking is a low barrier so I clicked, curiously. Then I instead got the "No, now you have to install Messenger app" screen. That was enough of a barrier that I said "oh forget it, who cares, anybody who knows me would know better than to send me an…

so you never ever use FB on the desktop ? You can still read messages there. I have quite a lot of international friends on FB of whom i don't have a phone number but use Messenger to communicate. Of course, i could try to find out their skype/email but the endresult would be the same, just more hassle to get there. With WhatsApp and Messenger i can pretty much reach anyone i know right now, but i could remove the re…

I didn't even know that it still worked on desktop! This shows that although it's not true that I /never/ use FB on the desktop it's very rare. This is because I never go to FB just to check out FB; I go to FB because a notification email piqued my interest. And I do read my emails almost exclusively on the phone.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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so you never ever use FB on the desktop ? You can still read messages there. I have quite a lot of international friends on FB of whom i don't have a phone number but use Messenger to communicate. Of course, i could try to find out their skype/email but the endresult would be the same, just more hassle to get there. With WhatsApp and Messenger i can pretty much reach anyone i know right now, but i could remove the re…

I didn't even know that it still worked on desktop! This shows that although it's not true that I /never/ use FB on the desktop it's very rare. This is because I never go to FB just to check out FB; I go to FB because a notification email piqued my interest. And I do read my emails almost exclusively on the phone.

The trick is to keep only "facebook.com/messages" in your history (or bookmarks if you use that). That way the browser autocomplete from your history and you get directly to the messages.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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post #309

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't even know that it still worked on desktop! This shows that although it's not true that I /never/ use FB on the desktop it's very rare. This is because I never go to FB just to check out FB; I go to FB because a notification email piqued my interest. And I do read my emails almost exclusively on the phone.

The trick is to keep only "facebook.com/messages" in your history (or bookmarks if you use that). That way the browser autocomplete from your history and you get directly to the messages.

Just use http://messenger.com then
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